Ah, I was thinking Hakan's routing with Andi's running. Yeah, so that's not going to happen.tubeguru wrote:You're only as fast as your slowest runner ...Wanstead wrote:That further suggests if the Swede and the Finn were ever to join forces they'd flatten the current record.
Are we reaching a threshold?
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Full Network - Attempts: 1 | Completions: 1 (17h28m57s on 14/09/09)
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i dont think its anything to do wiv my routes even i cant compensate for bad luck which has happened on 6 of those 10 attempts and some have just been for fun no record pace running.joy54 wrote:I remember Hakan telling me that on any single attempt he makes using his current route created using the genetic algorithm, he calculated he has a 30% change of breaking the current record held by myself and Andi.
Now of course no one other than Hakan does not have access to his "optimum" route or the genetic algorithm he uses to create routes, but considering his running pace is of considerably less stature than others on this forum, I reckon that a fast runner with a "decent" route could achieve the same 30% record breaking success rate. Furthermore a fast runner that had a "specially devised" route created by Hakan (his routes always compensate for a slower running pace) could achieve an even higher success rate.
So to answer Neil, no we have not reached a threshold, we have just reached a point where people are statistically more likely to be unsuccessful than successful by an factor of 2 (i.e. in three attempts one will be likely to succeed whereas two will be likely to fail).
Now of course some will reply here than Andi has achieved nowhere near the success rate described above in his recent attempts, in my opinion this fact shows more about the routes he is using rather than the "threshold" theory. If he was using a route anywhere near as good as Hakan's he should statistically have broken the record easily by now (since 24/07/08 he has attempted to break the record ten times, with a success rate of zero) and factoring in the fact that Andi is one of the fastest runners on the forum, it seems to suggest that a trip back to the drawing board routewise, will be needed, before he is to break the record again.
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I object to Andi being called the Finn!Wanstead wrote:That further suggests if the Swede and the Finn were ever to join forces they'd flatten the current record.
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It was that or title them the Slow Swede and the Flying Finn!Root wrote:I object to Andi being called the Finn!Wanstead wrote:That further suggests if the Swede and the Finn were ever to join forces they'd flatten the current record.
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what would u call me then ollie.Root wrote:I object to Andi being called the Finn!Wanstead wrote:That further suggests if the Swede and the Finn were ever to join forces they'd flatten the current record.
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Dorsetish 
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What they should have called this are we reaching a threshers i do that every day.
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I don't mind you being called A Finn, just not THE Finn. I'm Finnish too!palkanetoijala31 wrote:what would u call me then ollie.Root wrote:I object to Andi being called the Finn!Wanstead wrote:That further suggests if the Swede and the Finn were ever to join forces they'd flatten the current record.
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I haven't used Excel in ages, but I'm sure it is possible to define three data sets and plot them on the same graph. Create a blank XY-scatter plot and add the data sets using the wizard: for example, series 1 for the East London Line and series 3 for the current setup. You then should (?) be able to fit a trendline (I think this is what Excel calls it) to each data series individually.Wanstead wrote:I'm trying to work out how to split the data into three sets but keep it on the same graph. If I manage it, I'll update the image above.greatkingrat wrote:The network in 2002 was different to the current network so you can't compare a 275 time with a 270 time on the same graph.
If that doesn't do the trick then let me know and I'll do the plot with the packages I have here. Of course, I may have completely misunderstood what you wanted to do...
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There's only one way to find out who is more Finnish....... "Fight"....!Root wrote: I don't mind you being called A Finn, just not THE Finn. I'm Finnish too!
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i like the sound of that and we can even do it on finnish soil in england surprisingly named chesham place to ollie lolSoup Dragon wrote:There's only one way to find out who is more Finnish....... "Fight"....!Root wrote: I don't mind you being called A Finn, just not THE Finn. I'm Finnish too!
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Yes, it is odd that the Finnish embassy in London is in Chesham Place. But I don't plan to visit in the near future.
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I meant a mental fight... not physical. So the first Finn to answer these 10 questions correctly can be pronounced the true Finn!
1. What is the currency of Finland?
2. Who is the Prime Minister of Finland?
3. Which countries have land borders with Finland?
4. When did Finland achieve independence from The Russian Empire?
5. Who where the two in the Finnish Civil War of 1918?
6. When did Helsinki host the Olympics?
7. What is the Finnish name for Finland?
8. What is Finland's fifth largest city by population?
9. Who was the first Finnish act to win Eurovision?
10. Which Finnish athlete won a total of 4 gold medals between 1972-76?
1. What is the currency of Finland?
2. Who is the Prime Minister of Finland?
3. Which countries have land borders with Finland?
4. When did Finland achieve independence from The Russian Empire?
5. Who where the two in the Finnish Civil War of 1918?
6. When did Helsinki host the Olympics?
7. What is the Finnish name for Finland?
8. What is Finland's fifth largest city by population?
9. Who was the first Finnish act to win Eurovision?
10. Which Finnish athlete won a total of 4 gold medals between 1972-76?
One day I shall return!
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A true Finn uses Google 
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well bouncing tigger attempt as kind of made this topic pointless now

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