Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
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Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
Due to the amount of comments in the game thread, I thought this might be a good idea!
Last edited by A Challenge on 02 May 2016, 06:33, edited 1 time in total.
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Winner of Gumbleweeds V, VI + XI, Nimbleweeds I, III - IX + XIV and (joint with GuyBarry) winner of Timesnap
And most importantly, Former leader of Tumbleweed, and first person to 250,000
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Disscussion
OK, here are the posts so far:
A Challenge 20:08: 3 points
GuyBarry 20:09: Spoiler
Tube Geek 20:09: Yo. Spoiler!
Tube Geek 20:11: 1 point
A Challenge 20:13: Invalid, nobody has posted a valid claim (or even post) since your spoiler. Anyway, if I am proved wrong, 1 Point.
GuyBarry 20:17: Not invalid at all. The last valid claim was yours at 20:08, and therefore Tube Geek's claim at 20:11 was valid. 1 point
A Challenge's claim at 20:08 was valid, but not successful. I think that's what's causing the problem here. The definitions are different from Tumbleweed.
A valid claim is one that complies with rules (1), (3) and (7): it must specify a number of points from 1 to 50, it must not follow another claim from the same player without another valid claim in between, and it must not take place between 00:00 and 05:59.
A successful claim is one that's not interrupted within the specified time.
Valid claims can score either a positive or a negative number of points, depending on whether they succeed or not. Invalid claims don't score at all; they stop the clock like all other posts, but beyond that they have no effect on the game.
A Challenge 20:08: 3 points
GuyBarry 20:09: Spoiler
Tube Geek 20:09: Yo. Spoiler!
Tube Geek 20:11: 1 point
A Challenge 20:13: Invalid, nobody has posted a valid claim (or even post) since your spoiler. Anyway, if I am proved wrong, 1 Point.
GuyBarry 20:17: Not invalid at all. The last valid claim was yours at 20:08, and therefore Tube Geek's claim at 20:11 was valid. 1 point
A Challenge's claim at 20:08 was valid, but not successful. I think that's what's causing the problem here. The definitions are different from Tumbleweed.
A valid claim is one that complies with rules (1), (3) and (7): it must specify a number of points from 1 to 50, it must not follow another claim from the same player without another valid claim in between, and it must not take place between 00:00 and 05:59.
A successful claim is one that's not interrupted within the specified time.
Valid claims can score either a positive or a negative number of points, depending on whether they succeed or not. Invalid claims don't score at all; they stop the clock like all other posts, but beyond that they have no effect on the game.
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Disscussion
A scores update please!
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
[Spelling of "discussion" corrected!]
I've suspended the game now, but the final scores were TG 51, GB 2, AC -23. I declare Tube Geek the winner. (Relieved to have ended on a positive score!)
Before we start the next game, let's go through the end of the last one carefully, as I don't think my explanation above was clear enough.
A Challenge posted a valid claim of 3 points at 20:08.
I posted a spoiler at 20:09, causing A Challenge's claim to fail. (AC's claim was still valid though.)
Tube Geek then posted a (totally unnecessary!) spoiler at 20:09.
Tube Geek then posted a claim of 1 point at 20:11. It was valid, because no one had posted a valid claim since A Challenge's claim at 20:08. The two intervening posts were not valid claims.
A Challenge then said "Invalid, nobody has posted a valid claim (or even post) since your spoiler". That's irrelevant. Rule (3) says "No player may make two successive claims for points without another valid claim between them. Consecutive posts by the same player are allowed as long as they are not both claims." Tube Geek hadn't made two successive claims for points: his previous claim was at 20:00, before A Challenge's. He'd made two consecutive posts, but that's allowed.
Clear now? I won't start a new game until I'm satisfied that everyone understands the rules.
I've suspended the game now, but the final scores were TG 51, GB 2, AC -23. I declare Tube Geek the winner. (Relieved to have ended on a positive score!)
Before we start the next game, let's go through the end of the last one carefully, as I don't think my explanation above was clear enough.
A Challenge posted a valid claim of 3 points at 20:08.
I posted a spoiler at 20:09, causing A Challenge's claim to fail. (AC's claim was still valid though.)
Tube Geek then posted a (totally unnecessary!) spoiler at 20:09.
Tube Geek then posted a claim of 1 point at 20:11. It was valid, because no one had posted a valid claim since A Challenge's claim at 20:08. The two intervening posts were not valid claims.
A Challenge then said "Invalid, nobody has posted a valid claim (or even post) since your spoiler". That's irrelevant. Rule (3) says "No player may make two successive claims for points without another valid claim between them. Consecutive posts by the same player are allowed as long as they are not both claims." Tube Geek hadn't made two successive claims for points: his previous claim was at 20:00, before A Challenge's. He'd made two consecutive posts, but that's allowed.
Clear now? I won't start a new game until I'm satisfied that everyone understands the rules.
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
I think so. Perhaps the old thread should be discarded
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And most importantly, Former leader of Tumbleweed, and first person to 250,000
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
It has! Sort of. There's a new thread called Grumbleweed IV, but the old thread still exists
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
Sorry, jumped the gun a bit - I should really have waited for A Challenge's response. Not too many points scored yet so I don't think he'll be at a disadvantage.
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Re: Grumbleweed III Scores and Discussion
And anyway, I was about 200 when he joined G/W IIGuyBarry wrote:Sorry, jumped the gun a bit - I should really have waited for A Challenge's response. Not too many points scored yet so I don't think he'll be at a disadvantage.
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