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Post by nozzacook »

greatkingrat wrote:Did you specifically ask for the working timetable or just for timetables generally?
I just asked for timetables generally.
The route diagrams for train staff will be clased as an internal document and will difficult to obtain with out a friendly drivr.
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Post by londongirl »

I'm not 100% sure there are timetables [she says tentatively] from what I understand from my dad working on the underground, most of the trains/delays/schedules are logged on a computer system.

I was at his office at the station one time and he basically has a system telling him what trains are coming in from where, whether they're on time etc. so it might be likely they don't have a paper schedule. But don't take that as definite or as a direct source.
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Post by moley »

There are definately timetables - or there were 6 months ago.

One for each line, colour coded and A4 sized.

You can request them from TfL but it would have to be done under the Freedom of Information Act. TfL have actually given them away before - can't remember how much the admin fee is that they charge.
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I reckon that under the FOIA, you'd need to contact in writing in order to make your request - if I remember rightly, then then must reply within 21 days.
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Post by dr_chris »

Does an email count as 'contacted in writing'?

Anyway, regardless of what TfL say they operate, they still have a paper WTT for all lines which is issued to drivers.
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No - from my understanding when the FOIA was drafted - no facility was provided for writing to include email.
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Well I can now definitively confirm that LU do provide copies of the working timetables under the FOI act as this morning they sent me copies of the ones for the Northern and Central lines.

All you have to do is fill in the form at https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/foi/contacts.asp making sure you specifically ask for the working timetable rather than a general timetable.

Whats more they do not even charge any admin fees, even though it cost them £4.60 to post them to me, plus another couple of quid for printing costs!
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Post by moley »

When did you put your request through?
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I forget exactly, it was about 2 weeks ago.
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Hehe, I got the WTT for every line through the FOI (Piccadilly line for after T4 reopens) for FREE -- no postage charge, no printage charge, nothing. And they came within 4 days too!
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It won't be long before the WTTs are placed somewhere very discrete on the TfL Tube website.

TfL are slowly putting information like this on their website.
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Post by snudge27 »

Jonny, did you write them a letter or e-mail them with your request?
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Post by jonny »

i asked through the online form on the tfl website.
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/foi/contacts.asp -- sorry i can't work out how to link it.
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Post by hwolge »

jonny wrote:Hehe, I got the WTT for every line through the FOI (Piccadilly line for after T4 reopens) for FREE -- no postage charge, no printage charge, nothing. And they came within 4 days too!
So are they really useful? Probably! But, please, let me try something out:

According to JP there are Wimbledon trains from Edgware Road at the following miutes: 12:53, 13:02 and 13:11. My question is what are the exact times according to WTT?

Not being a UK resident or citizen, I probably can't obtain them through the FOI act... :?
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Post by jonny »

12:53 arriving wimbledon 13:22(1/2)
13:02 arriving wimbledon 13:31(1/2)
13:11 arriving wimbledon 13:42

So JP is correct.
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