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hwolge · Post by **hwolge** » 03 Sep 2006, 22:01

garion24wales wrote:Right...... just to let all of you know...

1) I am pretty confident as my route takes 18h 13m

So, how do you calculate that? Strictly to Journey Planner - 0 time for changes - or something more realistic?

For a discussion on theoretical times - look at http://www.tubechallenge.com/forum/view ... sc&start=0

Garion · Post by **Garion** » 03 Sep 2006, 22:15

I meant to type 15 not 13. I was in a hurry when typing. Anyway, I've speant long and hard working my route, i'm not going to tell you my secrets.

I have allowed for changes though.

hwolge · Post by **hwolge** » 04 Sep 2006, 07:01

Don't worry, I'm not looking for your secrets.

Just curiosity and some hint to how to interpret your theoretical time...

Anyway - Good Luck!

Garion · Post by **Garion** » 04 Sep 2006, 11:24

I've been speaking to a good friend who is an expert on the Tube Challenge.

And thanks.

petermiller36 · Post by **petermiller36** » 04 Sep 2006, 18:40

nice to see that ******** has welsh relatives too!

Garion · Post by **Garion** » 04 Sep 2006, 19:28

By the way, I'm half English

hwolge · Post by **hwolge** » 04 Sep 2006, 21:38

petermiller36 wrote:nice to see that ******** has welsh relatives too!

I knew there was something familiar...

Starkey7 · Post by **Starkey7** » 04 Sep 2006, 22:28

I reckon that garian24wales [sic] is using one of my lazy-boy routes, which involves only changing half a dozen times, and doing whole lines in one fell swoop.

Hmm whenever ******** is mentioned I get all confused.

Garion · Post by **Garion** » 04 Sep 2006, 23:45

Actually Starkey 7, my route involves 66 changes.
And I'm not lazy

Starkey7 · Post by **Starkey7** » 04 Sep 2006, 23:54

Oh no, I never said that you were lazy! There are two types of tube challenge route: repeating few stations but changing lots of times, and repeating a lot of stations but changing few times. The latter is called the "lazy boy" route and was first coined by Going Underground in describing my Bottle route - which only had four changes in it! All the rest of the journey I was just sitting down admiring the world go by.

I reckon that the "lazy boy" routes tend to be slightly better ... but then who knows? That's just my theory.

Garion · Post by **Garion** » 05 Sep 2006, 00:05

Cool. I think my route falls into the first category.

hwolge · Post by **hwolge** » 05 Sep 2006, 07:29

I'd say 66 changes sounds a bit high, compared to a couple of known successful routes. It's obviously also due to how you count them.

BTW this is how I count changes/legs (nowadays):

1) If there are through trains (that aren't very uncommon) don't count any possible changes (e.g. going Northern CX Branch to MHE - don't count any changes there. even though it's quite possible you encounter one or two).
2) Count any combination of run/walk/bus/tram/train between stations as ONE change.
3) Count the likeliest route when alternatives exist.
4) Number of legs is one more than number of changes!

With this counting around 50 changes seems like a good target..

Please check out:
http://www.tubechallenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=395

Garion · Post by **Garion** » 05 Sep 2006, 11:12

Now that you've said that, I've counted around 52 or something

Soup Dragon · Post by **Soup Dragon** » 07 Sep 2006, 00:43

"Lazy Boy" does it for me every time. Fewer changes = more energy for runs + less time waiting for trains. The last Z1 I did had only 13 changes compared to 16-18 on Z1's I usually plan. The 13 changes worked like a dream. My favourite part of the Z1 Lazy Boy wass the Bakerloo from Paddington to E&C but the rest of my route is TOP SECRET!

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