tubechallenge.com

TfL "consultation" on ending one-day Travelcards here:

https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/travelcards?tool=qanda

This could potentially lead to a big increase in cost of coming into London to do Challenges as the cost would then be fare to London plus Oyster day cap.

Saw this last night. When I was supporting the GWR run in 2015 I maxxed out my Oyster but they refunded most of it. I think the person on the other end of the call was rather surprised at my reason!

Not good news, particularly for those buying outboundary travelcards, but does make challenges of all descriptions harder - yes I did do the R15 last year on oyster, but had to purposefully break my journey twice (only once as it turned Shepherds Bush LO to Shepherds Bush Market isn't actually an OSI, so I didn't actually need to purposefully break it) changing at Moorgate, and I think that was within 10 minutes of the maximum journey time, so it was close.

I'm not sure whether TfL have done their maths right in this getting them money either, as people will do less trips to London and TfL will probably make less from those who do - surely they must get more from an outboundary travelcard that a Z1-2 cap, and most people don't use Z3-6, as this is essentially a return to the first station in Z6 and then a travelcard, so the travelcard element is more than just the difference between that and a return to London Terminals, particularly on shorter outside-London journeys that are used more.

Even if you time out an Oyster, on an R15 you will hit the cap so it is worth it, especially if you have a railcard discount.

My next FNC (which may be some years off owing to a lack of fitness (and loads of work commitments)) will probably be done on Oyster. You can break your journey purposefully at places like Chalfont & Latimer, Watford, Uxbridge, etc. with no trains lost (mostly).

The Tories are petitioning about this, by the way.

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That’s Khan for you - ULEZ, bus route removals, and now this. Worst Mayor we’ve ever had.

hopeful traveller wrote: ↑28 Apr 2023, 20:31 The Tories are petitioning about this, by the way.

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That’s Khan for you - ULEZ, bus route removals, and now this. Worst Mayor we’ve ever had.

I won't sign this because it is from the Tories. In fact TfL is being blackmailed by the Central Government to make the savings since COVID hit while the Mayor did a great job in freezing Tube fares before 2020.

hopeful traveller wrote: ↑28 Apr 2023, 20:31 The Tories are petitioning about this, by the way.

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That’s Khan for you - ULEZ, bus route removals, and now this. Worst Mayor we’ve ever had.

So we've reached the point where Tory propaganda is now being posted here, are we?

EDIT - actually, since someone said they weren't going to click on it, I've removed it. This isn't the forum for Tory propaganda. Search for it yourself on Google if you really want to sign it.

Good news.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 15574.html

cycysputnik wrote: ↑24 Oct 2023, 11:44 Good news.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 15574.html

Hallelujah!

Excellent news. I can cope with the extra 3 per cent levy. But as a Home Counties user, the combined rail and Travelcard has been vital to facilitating my London visits over the last 33 years. Oyster and contactless just wouldn’t do it for me.