Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
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Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
I haven’t looked into the feasibility of this, so laugh away:
Visit every station within (and including) the two circles of the Circle Line and the Overground “circle” (Clapham Junction-Willesden Junction-Highbury&Islington-Surrey Quays).
Visit every station within (and including) the two circles of the Circle Line and the Overground “circle” (Clapham Junction-Willesden Junction-Highbury&Islington-Surrey Quays).
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
Any reason why you mention the circle line "bottle"? Every station within that is also within the outer circle. Unless you mean to EXCLUDE those stations within the bottle, making this the "donut" challenge? Presumably this includes Overground as well as Underground stations - does it include NR and/or DLR stations as well?
But whatever it is, it sounds like a fun challenge. Somewhere between a Z1 and Z1&2 in size, with a bit of a twist.
But whatever it is, it sounds like a fun challenge. Somewhere between a Z1 and Z1&2 in size, with a bit of a twist.
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
Doughnut challenge… I like that name!
Yes, I mean excluding stations inside the bottle. I think it should be TFL modes, so DLR and obviously Overground. I think there’s only 1 standalone DLR station in that lot though.
Yes, I mean excluding stations inside the bottle. I think it should be TFL modes, so DLR and obviously Overground. I think there’s only 1 standalone DLR station in that lot though.
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
I like it!
Does this include stations on the inner and outer circle?
What about Battersea park?
Does this include stations on the inner and outer circle?
What about Battersea park?
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
If you excluded the stations on the loops, there is the harder version of not being allowed to use either circle during the challenge.
Separately, while we are clarifying rules, if the challenge was to include stations on the loop, at interchange stations with other lines, presumably any line would count as a visit?
Separately, while we are clarifying rules, if the challenge was to include stations on the loop, at interchange stations with other lines, presumably any line would count as a visit?
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
I think it would include stations on the two circles and therefore a visit by any of the valid lines is acceptable.
Would not include Battersea Park, as I envisage this being not an all-day challenge and more of an Olympics-eligible one.
Would not include Battersea Park, as I envisage this being not an all-day challenge and more of an Olympics-eligible one.
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
Are you considering banning any travel within the doughnut, or would it still be permitted to take the Vic from Kings Cross to Victoria or Crossrail (hah, as if it'll be open) across town?
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That is the point - the "hole" is banned!
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
You visit Battersea park via national rail?hopeful traveller wrote:I think it would include stations on the two circles and therefore a visit by any of the valid lines is acceptable.
Would not include Battersea Park, as I envisage this being not an all-day challenge and more of an Olympics-eligible one.
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What is the ruling on Edgware Road and Marylebone at present re the bottle challenge?
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
I'm presuming that it is the definition of the circle as on the map. By that I mean that using the Bakerloo or Northern line platforms at Embankment would be fine, despite them physically being located inside the circle line.
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The Bottle challenge includes these two stations and always has done.hopeful traveller wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 15:50 What is the ruling on Edgware Road and Marylebone at present re the bottle challenge?
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
Cheers Tangy.
With that in mind, I will say that Edgware Road and Marylebone are not "must visit" stations, but are not "banned" either.
Here's a potential possible route:
Holland Park - Notting Hill Gate - Bayswater - South Kensington - West Brompton - Imperial Wharf - Shepherd's Bush (LO) - Shepherd's Bush (Cen) - White City - Wood Lane - Euston Square - Euston - Belsize Park - Camden Town - Camden Road - Finchley Road & Frognal - Finchley Road - West Hampstead (Jub) - West Hampstead (LO) - Willesden Junction - Kilburn High Road - Queen's Park - Baker Street - Swiss Cottage - South Hampstead - Euston - Moorgate - King's Cross St Pancras - Highbury & Islington - Caledonian Road & Barnsbury - Clapham Junction (via ELL) - Vauxhall - Pimlico - Stockwell - Waterloo - Elephant & Castle (via Bak) - London Bridge - Bermondsey - Westminster - Sloane Square - Aldgate/Aldgate East (or vice versa) - Liverpool Street.
Here's a very basic cannibalisation of the map which may assist you in my visualisation of the challenge:
With that in mind, I will say that Edgware Road and Marylebone are not "must visit" stations, but are not "banned" either.
Here's a potential possible route:
Holland Park - Notting Hill Gate - Bayswater - South Kensington - West Brompton - Imperial Wharf - Shepherd's Bush (LO) - Shepherd's Bush (Cen) - White City - Wood Lane - Euston Square - Euston - Belsize Park - Camden Town - Camden Road - Finchley Road & Frognal - Finchley Road - West Hampstead (Jub) - West Hampstead (LO) - Willesden Junction - Kilburn High Road - Queen's Park - Baker Street - Swiss Cottage - South Hampstead - Euston - Moorgate - King's Cross St Pancras - Highbury & Islington - Caledonian Road & Barnsbury - Clapham Junction (via ELL) - Vauxhall - Pimlico - Stockwell - Waterloo - Elephant & Castle (via Bak) - London Bridge - Bermondsey - Westminster - Sloane Square - Aldgate/Aldgate East (or vice versa) - Liverpool Street.
Here's a very basic cannibalisation of the map which may assist you in my visualisation of the challenge:
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
Aren't White City and Wood Lane 'banned' stations?
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Re: Alternative Challenge Idea - Two Circles
Also can I put my pedantic hat on.
If the intention is to visit every station in the doughnut wouldn't this also apply to the mainline stations of King's Cross and St. Pancras. As I am fond of telling people on a regular basis the Underground Station is called King's Cross St. Pancras, but there are two separate buildings for the mainline stations; King's Cross AND St. Pancras
So wouldn't this follow the same rule as Hammersmith, Paddington and Edgware Road both have to be visited for if to count
If the intention is to visit every station in the doughnut wouldn't this also apply to the mainline stations of King's Cross and St. Pancras. As I am fond of telling people on a regular basis the Underground Station is called King's Cross St. Pancras, but there are two separate buildings for the mainline stations; King's Cross AND St. Pancras
So wouldn't this follow the same rule as Hammersmith, Paddington and Edgware Road both have to be visited for if to count
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