"ETY" trains in WTT?

[lellama]

Does anyone know if the trains marked as "ETY" were available to passengers and just not in passenger timetables, or if they are just available for staff. If they carry passengers, would it count as a 'scheduled service' as stated in the official rules?. The explanation in the WTT key is a bit vague.
Thanks

[moley]

What part of the description is not clear?

Empty train, may convey Train Operators and Detrainment Staff.

[RJSRdg]

But... can they carry off-duty LU staff if they have their passes with them? That could give certain Forum members a distinct advantage

[dstock17]

But... can they carry off-duty LU staff if they have their passes with them? That could give certain Forum members a distinct advantage

in theory I suppose someone who could get access into Lille bridge depot would have a distinct advantage in the full network challenge as they be able to arrive into Ken o early morning.

not that I would ever attempt the full network myself.

[Iain]

I believe there's also some from Earl's Court to Ken O in the evening which could be very useful if permitted - can't think why they'd want them empty though. Out of curiosity, any ideas?

[The Orange One]

If they carry passengers, would it count as a 'scheduled service' as stated in the official rules?

No, it's scheduled public transport. If the public can't use it, it wouldn't count.

But... can they carry off-duty LU staff if they have their passes with them? That could give certain Forum members a distinct advantage

Maybe empty trains don't count, but being able to ride in the cab of the train gives you an improved door position at certain stations...

[greatkingrat]

I believe there's also some from Earl's Court to Ken O in the evening which could be very useful if permitted - can't think why they'd want them empty though. Out of curiosity, any ideas?

The simple answer is there are no LU staff at Olympia to help empty out the trains, so it is easier to run them out of service from HSK.

[Iain]

Ah I see, thanks. So would the doors not open at Earl's Court?

[greatkingrat]

From the WTT it looks like the trains go out of service at High Street Ken. I guess they don't want to block the platform at Earls Court while they empty out the train.

[stepneygreen05]

Would travelling in on an out-of-service train still count as completing the station though? That is the question.

[Steeevooo]

Given that "out-of-service" means "out of passenger service" then no, it would not count, since you should not be on the train in the first place.

[Golf]

if the case was you could if u were a tfl employee you could seriously jump out at west kensington other side of the exit use the electronic gate to gain access to lille bridge depot and get on empty train into kensington olympia. that be so much easier run wise.