384 bus route

[RJSRdg]

Now I'm getting really confused!

Looking up bus times on Journey Planner between High Barnet and Cockfosters at ariund 18:30 for a random date of 28/04/2015 I get the following:

18:18 384 arr 18:44 (26 min)

18:30 384 arr 19:04 (34 min)

18:45 384 arr 19:07 (22 min)

As can be seen there is a wide range of times for these buses - supposedly on the same route. In addition if I look up the maps on JP, the full route between NB and CF appears for 18:18 and 18:45 but only part of the route is shown for the 18:30 - there is no mention on JP of having to walk part of the way or to change bus.

(I would have expected - based on the 18:45 timing) for the 18:30 to arrive at CF at 18:52, in time to catch the 18:53 to Earl's Court).

Confused by this, I decided to look it up on TravelineSouthEast instead.

This has suggested:

1829 384 arr 1903

1833 384 to East Barnet (1854), then walk arr 1904.

1845 384 to CF arr 1907 (as per JP)

Any idea why there are the discrepancies between JP and TSE and why some 384s take longer than others?

Many thanks

[palkanetoijala31]

the 384 is due at high barnet 18:33 arriving cockfosters 18:58 if u want a piece of advice dont bother using the 384 i could run it faster than the bus most people could! if u coming out of high barnet take any bus that goes towards new barnet even one stop can help if right there that takes out at least 400m if 84/107 take it to new barnet that takes out 1 mile at least.

307 take to the stop before or at cockfosters/bramley rd and run up to cockfosters that be well better than 384.

[Iain]

Yep it takes in a load of sideroads.

Tbh at that time of night there'll be a load of traffic so bus isn't the fastest

[DrainBrain]

The 18:30 simply doesn't go all the way to Cockfosters. I agree this isn't clear on JP... until you look at the details and open the map.

[Iain]

There's also buses half the way to Cockfosters from above HB

[tangy]

For full bus timetables check out http://www.londonbusroutes.net/routes.htm and click the route you wish to consult.

1833 arr. 1858
1845 arr. 1907
1900 arr. 1922

[RJSRdg]

Gah! The more I look into it, the messier it gets!

Thought I'd found a 22 minute route from HB to CF but according to JP there was a very tight Tube.bus connection at HB. However traveline says I would have missed it by 1 minute and Tangy's link says I would have missed it by three!

(Services for the other direction appear the same on all three sites!).

Richard

[Das]

I used to drive this route and as a bus driver it is a challenging route

[greatkingrat]

TfL are proposing to reroute the 384 bus so it would take a more direct route from High Barnet to Cockfosters, and also to extend it to Edgware at the other end.

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/route-384/

[michael_churchill]

TfL are proposing to reroute the 384 bus so it would take a more direct route from High Barnet to Cockfosters, and also to extend it to Edgware at the other end.

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/route-384/

I think it must have been the 384 bus I took on my Labyrinth run - I was not in a hurry!

I read Diamond Geezer's post about this change. He mentions that there are petitions organised by people affected by the removal of the wiggly bits. I just thought "Yeah, whatever, but it makes it more direct for Tube Challenge!"

[dstock17]

It would open up some route changes not previously thought about I guess and a new start position

[Going Underground]

Don't catch it takes blooming ages.... have learnt my lesson twice and vowed never again!

[tufnellpark]

TfL are proposing to reroute the 384 bus so it would take a more direct route from High Barnet to Cockfosters, and also to extend it to Edgware at the other end.

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/route-384/

TfL should ignore the locals and make the 384 route more direct between High Barnet and Cockfosters. In fact withdraw all the stops and make it express X384. I'd use it then rather than the 307 and a run. Direct might knock 5-10mins off the High Barnet-Cockfosters connection time.

[greatkingrat]

TfL are proposing to reroute the 384 bus so it would take a more direct route from High Barnet to Cockfosters, and also to extend it to Edgware at the other end.

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/route-384/

These changes have now gone ahead so the 384 is now a bit less wiggly and quicker than it was before.

[stepneygreen05]

TfL are proposing to reroute the 384 bus so it would take a more direct route from High Barnet to Cockfosters, and also to extend it to Edgware at the other end.

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/route-384/

These changes have now gone ahead so the 384 is now a bit less wiggly and quicker than it was before.

Approximately how long is the journey time now?