Re: 13th February 2012
Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 16:17
It's because the guy in charge at the big round building on Queen's walk wears a blue tie. Expect it all to be crap again if a guy wearing a red tie moves back in later this year.
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Root wrote:It's because the guy in charge at the big round building on Queen's walk wears a blue tie. Expect it all to be crap again if a guy wearing a red tie moves back in later this year.
The actual TFL figures from 13 Nov - 10 Dec 11: (highlighted bits that have been discussed)Sam wrote:Are you the head of TfL or something.... The jubilee line is DIRE compared to what it used to be!!hopeful traveller wrote:The average journey time is down on the Jubilee Line and it is more reliable now. The official completion date of the upgrade was June '11, after which, the journey times decreased significantly.geofftech wrote:[rant at TfL]
Victoria is to be completed this year.
Rhys, I'll stop you right there. No need to go past those five words.hopeful traveller wrote:The actual TFL figures from...
Yup, i've taken all those into account in terms of what is a delay, and what isn't. I say that nowadays you can sitll have a problem and work around it, but there really have been more major issues, more severe delays than minor delays than what there ever used to be. Monday's attempt was the worst day in the history of all my attempts, which just about sums it up for me ... it's the year 2012, and I have my worst ever attempt. TheTube is worst than it used to be, and I'm sticking by that! Would still love to see others stats .. (there's a thread for it now.... go on, you know you want to).greatkingrat wrote:Also, I don't think the tube was ever as good as you seem to think. Just going through your early attempts you had problems every single time.
Tube 1 - signal failure at Gunnersbury, passenger alarm at South Harrow
Tube 2 - 13 min wait at Hainault, 16 min wait at Acton Town
Tube 3 - various long waits towards the end of the day
Tube 4 - 10 min delay at Golders Green, points failure at Kennington, ran to District line station that was closed
Tube 5 - 9 min wait for District, Eastern end of the Central screwed,
Tube 6 - points failure at East Finchley, 19 min wait at Woodford
Tube 7 - 25 min wait for MHE train, cancellation at Uxbridge, and you still broke the record!
The big difference is that when you first started, the record was a lot easier and you could afford a couple of delays and still have a chance at the record. Nowdays, every route is planned so exactly and the connections are so tight, that it just takes one minor delay of a few minutes and you can never get that time back.
I have to agree with greatkingrat, the tube is not "designed" for tubechallenges. We are using transport in a way it was never designed for! Though don't think I'm leaping to the defence of TfL, even my limited experience I seen tube trains do some daft things! Besides you need that ONE perfect day, and your golden!greatkingrat wrote:I think a tube challengers view of "good service" is different to the average passengers view of "good service". A train arriving at Stanmore 2 minutes late might muck up your route, but 99% of passengers will not notice or be bothered in the slightest. Remember that the working timetable is not intended to be used by the public, just because it says there is a 30 second connection in theory doesn't mean it will work in practice. The TfL statistics are more concerned with the big picture of the line as a whole rather than the exact timings of individual trains.
The big difference is that when you first started, the record was a lot easier and you could afford a couple of delays and still have a chance at the record. Nowdays, every route is planned so exactly and the connections are so tight, that it just takes one minor delay of a few minutes and you can never get that time back.
i have at least 4 of his attempts written down but the successfull ones Surely if u were at West brompton u would have told the lady just for one stop at least to earls court then she could have picked up a richmond or ealing broadway starter or even a pic to s kengeofftech wrote:So ... there seems to be a notion here of "it's no better than it was...", which (i'll say again) is bizarre considering how much time out they have (all those weekends) to get it going, and the big "We've got a plan" PR campaign - when really, at the very least - it's no better.
just today I was at West Brompton this morning on the north/eastbound platform, and there was a tourist asking the CSA which train to get to go to South Kensington. He looked up at the DMI and said "the one about to pull in now", at it was showing a City/Victoria train. At which point a Wimbleware pulled in, and I had to tell the lady that this was not the train she wanted, but to wait for the next one. Please TfL, please .. take some of your wasted PR money, and get the 'Next train' indicators to actually always work. Even if you don't run trains, or run them to time, get the information to the customers correct, it's appalling. And I can think of at least four others stations (all in my local area) where the 'Next train..' is often wrong. *Sigh*
Steveoo - no stats AT ALL? Who has all your logbooks with all your times written down!!? At a guestimate though, what %age would you say it fails. 66%? Or less ...
I don't have any definitive stats, no - I'm not always the logger on my attempts, and there has been at least one attempt where it went so badly that I ripped out the logbook pages and threw them away! That said, if I could be bothered I'm sure I could locate a couple of my books. At a guess from what little I can actually remember of my failed attempts, 2 or 3 would have failed because of a complete system failure and the rest probably due to the scenario you previously mentioned where one or two isolated incidents have cost a connection which has then snowballed into something bigger.geofftech wrote:Steveoo - no stats AT ALL? Who has all your logbooks with all your times written down!!? At a guestimate though, what %age would you say it fails. 66%? Or less ...