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You could have been a bit more thorough in your explanations there ...

***** wrote:the record currently stands at 2 hours, 43 minutes and 50 seconds.

- Your overall time is measured from the moment the first train finally closes its door for departure until the doors open at (or close for departure) at the last station visit. Each team must measure their own time down to seconds. This means you CAN visit your last zone 1 station by departing from a station, and the time is the moment that the doors close and the train pulls away.

Two comments: As on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternativ ... Challenges the record is actually 2:42'22", achieved by Jamie Brown and me.

This idea of being able to visit the final station by departing from there is different from every other challenge I've been on, including the full networks. I've always felt that the rules should be as consistent as possible. (Besides, Jamie and I had to complete a different Zone 1 challenge by running to Earls Court and taking any train one stop - hence we were the only team officially to finish in zone 2 - at West Kensington.)

OK. My first post here... been lurking for some time reading much of the posts here and I think this would be an ideal starter challenge, so am now making necessary plans and arrangements to travel down to London especially for this.

The rules are implicitly clear to me!

Starkey7 wrote:

***** wrote:Your overall time is measured from the moment the first train finally closes its door for departure until the doors open at (or close for departure) at the last station visit. Each team must measure their own time down to seconds. This means you CAN visit your last zone 1 station by departing from a station, and the time is the moment that the doors close and the train pulls away.

This idea of being able to visit the final station by departing from there is different from every other challenge I've been on, including the full networks. I've always felt that the rules should be as consistent as possible. (Besides, Jamie and I had to complete a different Zone 1 challenge by running to Earls Court and taking any train one stop - hence we were the only team officially to finish in zone 2 - at West Kensington.)

I agree with John, we have never had the rule before that allows the watch to be stopped on a departing train. I think this breaks with tradition and would nulify any times set using this method for being used in Z1 top times table.

There will be adults there?

Work it out "like adults"!

There are adults on this forum?

Why do you not reveal the meeting point here? It seems simpler just to say meet at (say) the Horse & Groom. Also it means anybody can come along. With the R15s (yes, you get people to add themselves to the list) you could just turn up at the start station (and I think it would be OK even if there were one or two unexpected people). It seems an unnecessary complication.

I know this is not related to Z1, but relevant to the Amersham debate. You say that northbound Chilterns do not use the same tracks/platform at Amersham as A stocks. I can tell you that may be incorrect, as I have arrived (and departed) on an A stock from Platform 1, which seems to fail the debate that is not used by LU trains...

JoeGJ1984 wrote:Why do you not reveal the meeting point here? It seems simpler just to say meet at (say) the Horse & Groom. Also it means anybody can come along. With the R15s (yes, you get people to add themselves to the list) you could just turn up at the start station (and I think it would be OK even if there were one or two unexpected people). It seems an unnecessary complication.

I think it's so that we have a rough idea of how many people are likely to be attending so things like function rooms etc can be planned in advance. There's usually far more people at the Annual Z1 than at an R15

I really cannot remember, Geoff, when it was that Jamie and I set the 2:42'22" record; obviously it was after my 2:43'50" record - by quite some way if I remember rightly.

tangy wrote:I know this is not related to Z1, but relevant to the Amersham debate. You say that northbound Chilterns do not use the same tracks/platform at Amersham as A stocks. I can tell you that may be incorrect, as I have arrived (and departed) on an A stock from Platform 1, which seems to fail the debate that is not used by LU trains...

Furthermore, London Overground and District line trains don't use the same tracks at Richmond, and yet that's never been an issue!

Just out of curiosity seeing as u work for the BBC any possibility of a celebrity puller of the station name.?

***** wrote: 2) Visiting a station is defined as arriving at or departing from or passing through the station on a LU trainn. You are allowed to leave the Underground system and move between stations on foot or by bus.

I presume NR trains are also allowed to connect between LU stations too - not just bus or foot?

Why do teams need to be made in advance? Why can't we just make them up on the day, and have our team photos taken for ***** prior to the draw (or at the post competition meeting point) as has happened previously for the Zone 1 Challenge.

Well, I make that sweeping statement surmising from the old ***** which contained said photos.

RobbieM wrote:

***** wrote: 2) Visiting a station is defined as arriving at or departing from or passing through the station on a LU trainn. You are allowed to leave the Underground system and move between stations on foot or by bus.

I presume NR trains are also allowed to connect between LU stations too - not just bus or foot?

Yes, it's particularly useful for a certain stretch between an NR terminus and an otherwise difficult station.