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Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 09:26
by tubeguru
"The Snake"?
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 09:31
by Going Underground
tubeguru wrote:"The Snake"?
You just read my mind
Was looking at Gasman's map and the snake leapt of the page and bit me
So Hakan's desktop challenge has know become reality
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Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 11:26
by Sillert, V.I.
As the route is fixed, there's nothing you can do to accommodate delays once you've started, so everything will depend on getting a "good sevice" on the day.
Any thoughts on which way round to do it?
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 11:32
by tubeguru
Well, if you can get to Hainault before 8pm, then Harrow to Epping is better.
If you can't, you'll have to do it Epping to Harrow, although according to G Force in another thread, Woodford to Hainault will soon be open until midnight, so doing it Harrow to Epping would work on any day.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 14:44
by hwolge
My guess is that it will take around 7 hours to finish. This is based on the following:
Each stop should be around 2.5 minutes on the average. Change/wait should add up to some 4 minutes per change. There are 24 changes in all. This should add up to the order of (128*2.5 + 4*24) or 416 minutes (6h56m).
It assumes and indicates that it could be done during high train frequency. Let's say around 9am-4pm.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 14:52
by hwolge
When Heathrow T4 reopens, there will be plenty of different (129-)routes to choose between. I haven't analyzed them yet, but all have Epping (via Mile End - West Ham - Canada Water - Whitechapel) in the one end. All of them also use the Notting Hill Gate - Ealing Broadway -Ealing Common - Rayner's lane - Baker Street. But there are a quite few combinations through central London though.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 16:55
by jonny
Does that mean they start at HT4 or finish at HT1,2,3?
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 16:57
by Root
Either - it wouldn't make a difference.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 20:04
by hwolge
Name for the challenge
I'd suggest
"Visiting the maximum number of unique stations (currently 129) in the shortest possible time!"
or for short
"The 129 challenge"
BTW, it is unique down to the possible exchange of Barbican/Farringdon for Angel/Old Street.
However with T4 back we'll have 26 [edited] routes (instead of 2) to choose from!
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Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 20:14
by tubeguru
Just call it "129" regardless of how many you can actually get.
Makes it kind of enigmatic then.
Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 11:56
by hwolge
According to JPL 6h04m
                                    Arrive Depart
Epping                           09:07
Woodford                        09:22 09:31
Hainault                        09:41 09:45
Mile End                        10:09 10:10
West Ham                   10:16 10:19
Canada Water               10:30 10:36
Whitechapel     10:42 10:46
Liverpool Street         10:52 10:53
Aldgate                  10:55 10:59
Westminster                  11:11 11:13
London Bridge            11:19 11:20
Stockwell                  11:31 11:32
Victoria                        11:38 11:43
South Kensington         11:47 11:49
Piccadilly Circus         11:57 11:59
Charing Cross               12:00 12:03
Leicester Square         12:05 12:07
Holborn                           12:10 12:11
Bank                           12:16 12:18
Euston                           12:28 12:30
Tottenham Court Road 12:35 12:38
Notting Hill Gate         12:47 12:54
Gloucester Road         13:02 13:05
Earl's Court                  13:06 13:07
Acton Town (via Chiswick Park) 13:21 13:29
Rayners Lane                  13:48 13:54
Wembley Park                  14:06 14:13
Baker Street (via Neasden) 14:32 14:37
Harrow & Wealdstone         15:11
Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 12:10
by Going Underground
Myself and Dr Who will be attempting this in a few weeks time, although probably a later start from Epping as we will go off peak.....and we need to get there from Hatton Cross....
Will post our time and findings once completed
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Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 12:16
by snudge27
Would it be possible to adjust the timing of the run to reduce waiting times in stations, for example, there's a 9 minute wait at Woodford for the Hainault train, so depite the route being there, planning is very much key for a good time!
Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 12:39
by hwolge
I think the different wait times will pretty much even out as long as we do it during high frequency service.
As far as I could tell from a quick glance, the Woodford-Hainault (and on to Mile End) service is the one to look out for when chosing your exact start time...
Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 13:30
by hwolge
Here's a good one for residents of Hatton Cross:
                                    Arrive Depart
Epping                           11:36
Woodford                        11:51 11:54
Hainault                        12:03 12:05
Mile End                        12:29 12:31
West Ham                   12:37 12:38
Canada Water               12:49 12:50
Whitechapel        12:56 13:02
Liverpool Street      13:08 13:11
Aldgate                  13:14 13:15
Westminster                  13:27 13:28
London Bridge            13:34 13:35
Stockwell                  13:46 13:47
Victoria                        13:53 13:55
South Kensington         13:59 14:00
Piccadilly Circus         14:08 14:09
Charing Cross               14:10 14:11
Leicester Square         14:12 14:15
Holborn                           14:18 14:20
Bank                           14:25 14:26
Euston                           14:36 14:38
Tottenham Court Road 14:42 14:43
Notting Hill Gate         14:53 14:54
Gloucester Road         15:02 15:05
Earl's Court                  15:06 15:07
Acton Town (via Chiswick Park) 15:21 15:29
Rayners Lane                  15:48 15:54
Wembley Park                  16:07 16:10
Baker Street (via Neasden) 16:29 16:36
Harrow & Wealdstone         17:12