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Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 14:11
by TC95
The Orange One wrote:There's always the definition of terminus "a station where a track ends directly adjacent to a platform", which would mean:
Willesden Junction (low level platform 2)
Baker Street (Met)
Greenford (FGW)
Ealing Broadway (Cen, Dis)
Bank (W&C)
Stratford (Jub, DLR)
Hammersmith (H&C, Cir)
Moorgate (Thameslink, FCC, H&C, Cir)
Aldgate (Met)
Mansion House (Cir, Dis)
High Street Kensington (Oly)
Richmond (LO, Dis)
Kensington Olympia (Dis)
Parsons Green (Dis southbound)
Putney Bridge (Dis)
Wimbledon (Dis)
Plaistow (Dis west)
Barking (LO)
Dagenham East (Dis)
Upminster (Romford)
Neasden (Met/Jub siding)
Stanmore (Jub)
Chesham (Met)
Chalfont and Latimer (Chesham shuttle)
Rickmansworth (platform 3)
Watford (Met)
Uxbridge (Met, Pic)
Edgware (Nor)
High Barnet (Nor)
Cockfosters (Pic)
Quite a different selection from what you'd expect!
I don't think Rickmansworth counts as Platform 3 was never used for terminating services. It was only used for locomotive changeovers when electrification only ran up as far as Rickmansworth.
Also Thameslink does not terminate at Moorgate anymore!!!!!!!!! (What about Thameslink terminating platforms at Blackfriars?)
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 14:20
by The Orange One
No, but the Thameslink platforms and track still exist at Moorgate. Blackfriars NR is separate from LU. Rickmansworth Platform 3 still exists.
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 14:39
by TC95
Rickmansworth was never used for service though, so I wouldn't have said that
The Thameslink platforms are technically dismantled, so I wouldn't have said that either. If you are including that then you have to include Charing Cross (Jubilee) and Aldwych (Picc), as they have both got track present!
Plus you forgot Tower Hill
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 16:01
by The Orange One
TC95 wrote:Plus you forgot Tower Hill
So I did!
The tracks at Charing Cross continue past the platforms. Moorgate still counts due to Platform 3 at least! And the FCC. Rickmansworth is a station, and it does still have that platform (according to Carto Metro anyway).
Perhaps I should mend my description to: "a station with at least a weekly service where a track ends directly adjacent to a platform". That should cover it!
I did also forget:
Wembley Central (there is a track ending next to platform 6)
Woodford (platform 1)
Ealing Common (sidings behind platform 2)
I reckon we could extend it to either Tube and Friends or NR, Tube and Friends. Tube and Friends requires the addition of:
Clapham Junction (platform 1)
Watford Junction (LO)
Euston NR (all)
Gospel Oak (platform 3)
Dalston Junction (platforms 2 and 3)
New Cross (platform D)
New Cross Gate (end of platform 2)
Crystal Palace (platforms 3 and 5)
West Croydon (platform 1)
New Addington (all)
Beckenham Junction (tramlink and NR)
Elmers End (platform 1)
Stratford International (DLR)
Beckton (all)
Woolwich Arsenal (all)
Tower Gateway (all)
Mudchute (platform 3)
Lewisham (all)
Nice and simple, that. I'm having a look at NR, to be nasty.
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 16:31
by The Orange One
NR Stations are:
All stations labelled London Terminals (apart from City Thameslink, Old St, Vauxhall and Waterloo East), Hayes and Harlington, HT5, HT4, Hornsey, Gordon Hill, Enfield Town, Cheshunt, Chingford, Ilford, Romford, Grays, Twickenham, Kingston, Hampton Court, Epsom Downs, Streatham Hill, Tattenham Corner, Caterham, Hayes, Orpington, Bromley North, Shenfield.
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 16:43
by TC95
Regardless of what Carto Metro says, I'd like to see Metropolitan services stop at Rickmansworth platform 3. It still technically exists with track still in situ but never saw passenger service. Aldwych should still be counted under the your previous classification shouldn't it?
As well as Moorgate platform 3, you've got platform 4. Used by H&C and circle lines during engineering works.
I still prefer the "stations at the end of an LU line or branch of an LU line" definition of the termini challenge
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 16:58
by The Orange One
It's definitely the best definition, except tractakid's of course. I just put this in for variety, and to show you how so few conventional LU termini follow the actual definition of a terminus station.
In fact, Hammersmith H&C, Stanmore, Chesham, Watford, Uxbridge, Edgware, High Barnet and Cockfosters are the only eight stations on the London Underground network with ONLY terminus-style platforms. Now that would be a short challenge

The only question is how you would fit in Hammersmith H&C. Such a bother!
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 17:37
by TC95
What a challenge that would be!!
An inconvenience yes, a both no; Uxbridge - Ickenham - West Ruislip - White City - Wood Lane - Hammersmith (H&C), simples
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 18:21
by tractakid
What if my definition were amended to "a london underground station that receives no through service for a London Underground line which it serves"?
Re: Introducing a twist on the FNC - Termini Challenge
Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 19:36
by Iain
My first thought is that works rather well.
The "track adjacent" version would make Chalfont a terminus as (at least last time I was there) the track from the old shuttle service was still in place