"NOT AFRAID" - Tube Relief 2005

[juggler]

The ones at rail platform level at Finsbury Park are never open - and the ones at Manor House have been closed for YEARS

[James_#510]

The information for the toilet map was obtained from TfL, and it shows which stations have toilets either in or close to the station.

[juggler]

I could suggest a "toilet challenge" - visit all the stations with loos that are *really* open on the underground but... err... maybe not eh!

[G Force]

(Without trying to sound like a toilet expert)

Don't expect to use Finchley Rd's toilets after 6pm as they are closed. Willesden Green's toilets are usually open (useful if you are on a NB train that has been tipped out there), but there seems to be some activities of a non-urinating kind that goes on in there (and I'm not talking about druggies!).

[tubeguru]

A Toilet Challenge?

Now you really are taking the piss.

[juggler]

Changing the subject very quickly...!

I have an annual gold 1-3 Oyster (cost me a grand but it does get me a third off all rail travel in the South East) but can some expert on these matters explain exactly why I shouldn't just shove a couple of quid of pre-pay on my card and use that for the challenge, rather than buying a 2-D peak travelcard to cover the areas my oyster doesn't??

Ta

[G Force]

I wouldn't use an Oyster for the tube challenge. As Geoff said, it usually times out after 2 hours, and then won't let you through the next set of barriers without a trip to the ticket office. I think this is the case for travelcards on Oyster as well as pre-pay, please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

If you have oyster pre-pay active on your oyster, then the problems will be a lot worse, unless you always swipe it in and out, and also swipe it in and out within the two hour time limit. Swiping in and out at some locations (particularly NR/LUL interchanges, and at termini where you are doubling back on yourself) may considerable increase the take it takes for you to pass through that station. Also if you for example have swiped in at a station in zone 2, make a reversal in zone 6 without swiping because you havn't needed to go through any gates, and then get caught by a revenue inspector in zone 5, then you will be in a bit of trouble! I don't know if the recently introduced capping will help with any of the above, but I wouldn't risk it!

[Fimb]

Thats a shame.. as I was looking forward to a print out of my oyster usage for that day.

[juggler]

No problem - I do so hate "low-tech" solutions now I use Oyster, but what the hell.

The other problem is I'm not sure I can remember how you put a paper ticket through a barrier though, as it's been so long

[Norm]

Just slip it in, baby..

[barrykas]

Well I've just got back from the Stanfords flagship store in Long Acre, where I purchased a copy of the "Way Out Tube Map" and an up-to-date London A-Z (given that our most recent copy of the latter was a Black & White one from 1979 ).

I have, however, noticed a few errors and omissions in the former. Some minor (such as incorrect phone numbers), some not so minor. For example:

• According to the map, the East London Line runs 6 car trains but, as any fewl nose, it actually uses 4 car "double ended" units of A60/A62 stock

• No details are given for any East London Line station, or for the Jubilee Line East of Bermondsey.

• Positions on the Circle seem to be based on C Stock, and don't take into account the fact that they're shared with A Stock and D Stock.

• In certain instances where a station has more than one exit (e.g. Seven Sisters) only one set of details is given.

• In the case of Monument, where there's the "Escalator Link" down from the Circle/District Line platforms to the Northern Line, the interchange detail isn't given.

I should point out that most of the information is correct, as far as I can tell, but those stand out from my own personal knowledge, so it may be worth noting exit positions whilst travelling about (though not during the challenge, unless you're changing trains there, for obvious reasons).

Cheers,

Barry

[Steeevooo]

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a copy of the Way Out Tube Map at such short notice? Everywhere that I have found online is offering 2-4 weeks, which is time that I obviously don't have! Any help will be gratefully received!

[Nutteronabus]

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a copy of the Way Out Tube Map at such short notice? Everywhere that I have found online is offering 2-4 weeks, which is time that I obviously don't have! Any help will be gratefully received!

I'll second that.

Though I've just spent 4 hours finding exits of my own accord, meaning if I CAN nab a copy, that'll be time wasted..

Hmmm..

[barrykas]

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a copy of the Way Out Tube Map at such short notice? Everywhere that I have found online is offering 2-4 weeks, which is time that I obviously don't have! Any help will be gratefully received!

Stanfords, London's premier supplier of maps and map-related items, in Long Acre (about half way between Covent Garden and Leicester Square stations) had about 20 on the shelf when I was there earlier today (in the Basement, near the Cash Desk).

HTH,

Barry

[jonny]

Well I've just got back from the Stanfords flagship store in Long Acre

I was in that shop at about 4:30 today!
The worker there for some reason thought that the Paris metro was in Naples