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Starkey7 wrote:Wow we're heading into a political debate here! This could be fun to watch...

Exactly, light the fuse and stand back

Going Underground wrote:Thanks for that, well for starters we need to get shot of this current lot in occupation of No. 10.........

Couldnt agree more, they are currently looking at closing our local hospital in Worthing, a town with a population of 100,000. Just to save a few quid they want to close our hospital, yet this bunch of utterly useless arseholes are prepared to waste millions per day in Afghanstan and Iraq fighting the war on terror. enuff said...

Well, I'm only young, so what do I know? Nevertheless, I'm inclined to agree with you two, except for one thing. I'm not saying whether I personally agree with the Iraq war, but at the time, the majority of British people were actually in favour of the idea. (Subsequently of course popular opinion has swung massively against it.) I suppose that the full consequences of a war weren't really thought of then.

Soup Dragon wrote:

Going Underground wrote:Thanks for that, well for starters we need to get shot of this current lot in occupation of No. 10.........

Couldnt agree more, they are currently looking at closing our local hospital in Worthing, a town with a population of 100,000. Just to save a few quid they want to close our hospital, yet this bunch of utterly useless arseholes are prepared to waste millions per day in Afghanstan and Iraq fighting the war on terror. enuff said...

Just remember who gave us a National Health Service.

Now for some controversy!

I think the whole health service and maybe the government needs some serious changes. The government should get up of their backsides and do something about this. We need a government that will change our NHS for the better and end this useless way of things

No more managers.
No more stupid halfway house people between doctors and nurses.
No more targets.
Just let us do our bloody jobs.

editorsfoot wrote:

Soup Dragon wrote:

Going Underground wrote:Thanks for that, well for starters we need to get shot of this current lot in occupation of No. 10.........

Couldnt agree more, they are currently looking at closing our local hospital in Worthing, a town with a population of 100,000. Just to save a few quid they want to close our hospital, yet this bunch of utterly useless arseholes are prepared to waste millions per day in Afghanstan and Iraq fighting the war on terror. enuff said...

Just remember who gave us a National Health Service.

Now for some controversy!

Yeah OLD Labour gave us the NHS and the Welfare State. NEW Labour are just intent in screwing stuff over.

dr_chris wrote:No more managers.
No more stupid halfway house people between doctors and nurses.
No more targets.
Just let us do our bloody jobs.

There speaks the voice of reason from within, simple isn't it?

londongirl wrote: Yeah OLD Labour gave us the NHS and the Welfare State. NEW Labour are just intent in screwing stuff over.

Those that are old enough to remember the Tory campaign for the 97 election may recall the red flashing lights through the curtains "New Labour new danger" how true that was

Starkey7 wrote:Well, I'm only young, so what do I know? Nevertheless, I'm inclined to agree with you two, except for one thing. I'm not saying whether I personally agree with the Iraq war, but at the time, the majority of British people were actually in favour of the idea. (Subsequently of course popular opinion has swung massively against it.) I suppose that the full consequences of a war weren't really thought of then.

I have to disagree and say opinions were evenly split on the war and don't think you can say the majority were in favour. It seemed that Hans Blick was just making headway on trying to find WMD's when Bush decided to invade for no good reason other than to give the American public some sense of belief that this would improve their national security. And good old Tony (puppet) Blair followed him into this crazy war.

How stupid declaring a war on terror. When can Bush/Blair declare that they have actually won this war? It's like a red rag to a bull

p.s. I think this thread may have now gone off topic

We're in Off-Topic so it's not a problem ...

Going Underground wrote:
Those that are old enough to remember the Tory campaign for the 97 election may recall the red flashing lights through the curtains "New Labour new danger" how true that was

Those of us old enough to remember should also remember the early 90s, the erm fiasco, interest rates at 15%, the economic damage of the miners strike.

I think we have to agree to disagree on this one, I'm not so much old labour as out of the ark labour.

I was glad I was only a baby back then! Couldnt be asked with all the hassle and all the problems!