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i would be very interested to know your views on thameslink being on the tube map. will it annoy other operators??

Should it be on the "Tube Map"*? - Yes because it's a valid cross London route that runs more frequently than some tube lines and is more useful for people than some of the changes.

* = I say Tube Map in inverted commas because many feel that the current version is too crowded and that it has outgrown its usefulness. There is of course a debate about what replaces it - the London Rail and Tube Map (which has all the NR services on it plus everything TfL), a Zone 1/2 map, both or something completely different?

Will it annoy other operators? - The only operator it will really annoy is TfL because of the perceived revenue abstraction from people using Thameslink as opposed to the tube (e.g. King's Cross St Pancras to London Bridge via Thameslink instead of the Northern Line). Therefore, the fare revenue will go to the DfT as opposed to TfL. This is why the inclusion of Thameslink on the tube map is currently only a trial period until early 2022 - the reason for this date is the improvement works at Bank which means reduced capacity on the Northern line from October 2021 until early 2022.

It's very frustrating I always forget about the existence in R15's

at least you wont now

just been looking at the Dec20 tube map, it says kings cross and st pancras international as a pose to kings cross st pancras

trains 500 wrote: ↑04 Feb 2021, 18:04 just been looking at the Dec20 tube map, it says kings cross and st pancras international as a pose to kings cross st pancras

"As opposed to" ...

I think it is a good change, however I agree with other people who I've seen comment on this that it appears they have tried to do it in the most ugly way possible so that people don't mind it disappearing again in a few years time - and really do they need to put it all on, it just causes clutter on the map - does it really need to go all the way out to Orpington/Bromley?