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Apologies for starting another ******** thread or if this is aired elsewhere but ******** is no more, sadly he has become TPG tube challenge, and his web site has a link to this one!!!

Any ideas was TPG stands for?

Yes. It stands for "twat".

"this site has no longer got any copyright connection. feel free to copy all our other websites still have copyright so dont copy them - you have been warned"

Ummm ...

Any idea what his new URL is?

URL is the same as before

http://www.freewebs.com/waveformonthetube/index.htm

Do I see someone linking to this forum?!

I am currently in discussions with ******** about his possible return to this forum.

However, before I allow him back I have to be certain of two things:

1. He will behave himself (and I've discussed this with him at length and told him what I expect and don't expect)

2. You will behave YOURSELVES

If I let him back in, the first thing I do not want to see is everyone telling him he's a twat. Yes, we have all been talking about him whilst he hasn't been here, but I think most of his problems come from his insistence on turning everything into a competition, where he is right and everyone else is wrong.

This is a consequence of his age (and possibly his upbringing), so it would help if everyone didn't simply shout at him - it'll only make him worse.

Essentially, we won't change the way he is; hopefully, only age will cure his ability to irritate just about everybody. In a way, I feel sorry for him and want to give him another chance.

You may have noticed I've been removing various ********-related topics on here, mainly because I'm getting bored of discussing him.

So, your CONSTRUCTIVE comments are welcome. I'd prefer it if we could stay away from "no, he's a twat" stuff.

My main problem with ******** was not what he wrote as such, but rather that he tried to post in almost every thread without any understandable purpose. However, I also strongly disliked his blatant lying - which I doubt will stop...

On the other hand, he may (perhaps) deserve a second chance...

lets bare in mind that for a few of us there was someone else that fitted into the ******** mould before ******** was around. but now he appears to have grown up and matured. and no im not talking about geoff.

To be honest I dont know a lot about him myself being fairly new to this forum and tube challenge as a whole...but the new TPGtubechallenge site is still claiming a world record of 17 hours 10 mins and 49 seconds, which we all know what not possible on the day stated....

Surely this would have to be removed before any possible return to the forum was considered?

He doesn't believe that Geoff and I hold the record. I even sent him a photo of my certificate with my hand across it and he claimed it was faked.

He simply does not take anything on trust. That's my big problem with him - he doesn't believe anything anyone tells him (and vice versa).

I think he has far to go before we're fully comfortable with him.

I don't think there's much reason to give him a second chance when you can scoot around his Wikipedia contributions for a few minutes and see the same personality traits (such as his inability to accept that he might in fact be in the wrong when large numbers of knowledgeable people disagree with him) screwing up his chances there too. If your emails with him give you reason to believe he's changed his attitude then fair enough, but on the available evidence he was still behaving just as cluelessly as of 2-3 days ago.

I see no reason why you should let him back in.

This is the email he sent me & Neil this morning:

please read this page on my site to explain fully what i mean. http://www.freewebs.com/waveformonthetube its got a minor disclaimer about my attempts. i am fully comfortable that your the holders of the record still and i want you to understand that. im not competative. i agree to any rules you will place on me. what else do you want!?

ps: if geoff recieves this please pass it on to neil.

So I looked at this site, and it's exactly the same content - just a different style layout. The lies are still there, and I can find no 'minor disclaimer' that he mentions.

If you let him on I suspect it will just degnerate into a mess as it did last time.

I vote to keep him off.

I'm voting to keep him off. Why?

LATEST: we are going to make a video about the tube. Including bits about tube challenging. Its going to take a month or two. And we have to ask tfl for permission. We are hoping for it to get on ITV1 and get it credited to us. It will be an hour long including breaks.

He just can't stop lying.

Well it's believeable up to the point where he says they're going to get it on ITV ...