Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

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Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by Going Underground » 26 Jan 2021, 15:15

Wow time flies eh, sadly it's now over a year since our little Tube family all gathered together back on 11th January 2020 for R15 round 3 :cry:
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by Golf » 26 Jan 2021, 15:57

I,m hoping that the grand reopening this saturday 30th january will kick start a defiance of enough is enough you cant keep business shut with no information of reopening and no hope! we have to earn money kids have to be educated unless the government is prepared to give us 100% of our wages in order for us all to sit on are arses indoors. no work im a risk if i walk out of my front door to a park but im not if providing a service JOKE!

Its already happening in europe the civil war it happen here soon more people are fed up and cannot take anymore. and we should be allowed back on the tube and meet up like old times just like an arrogant covid loving tik tok user. i be up for any such gathering.
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by hopeful traveller » 26 Jan 2021, 16:56

Going Underground wrote:
26 Jan 2021, 15:15
Wow time flies eh, sadly it's now over a year since our little Tube family all gathered together back on 11th January 2020 for R15 round 3 :cry:
Yep, how time flies. There was some suggestion face coverings may be made permanent on the tube, which would surely mean the end of tube challenge altogether?
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by al » 26 Jan 2021, 17:54

Why would it mean the end of tube challenging?
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Post by tubeguru » 26 Jan 2021, 17:56

al wrote:
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Why would it mean the end of tube challenging?
I was thinking that too.
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Post by Sam » 26 Jan 2021, 17:57

tubeguru wrote:
26 Jan 2021, 17:56
al wrote:
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Why would it mean the end of tube challenging?
I was thinking that too.
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by RJSRdg » 26 Jan 2021, 18:00

al wrote:
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Why would it mean the end of tube challenging?
As someone who struggles wearing a mask for prolonged periods of time (but not enough to be exempt!), I think it would likely be the end of Tube Challenging for me, especially if they were also required on the trains to/from London.
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by Steeevooo » 26 Jan 2021, 18:17

Indeed it will no doubt impact some individuals and their ability to do the tube challenge, but I fail to see how it would mean the end of tube challenging altogether, as per the original claim?

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Post by hopeful traveller » 26 Jan 2021, 19:24

I'm not sure how many of us would want to challenge with, potentially, not taking a mask off whilst running and sprinting? I know I would find it difficult.
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by EastActionWoman » 26 Jan 2021, 22:02

I wore a mask the whole time in stations/trains for my RSL challenge in the summer. Tbh I forgot I was wearing it after a while. Though I guess my sprint is nothing more than a fast amble compared to some of you guys.

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Post by Going Underground » 27 Jan 2021, 12:15

As we are forced to wear them all day at work for the zero good they do (a droplet of the alleged virus is 1000th the size of a human hair so that's not going to escape through the fabric then) and I still run twice a week I find myself out of breath after briskly walking one flight of stairs....
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by lucybaell » 27 Jan 2021, 15:09

Going Underground wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 12:15
(a droplet of the alleged virus is 1000th the size of a human hair so that's not going to escape through the fabric then)
Fact check: A molecule of COVID-19 is quoted to be approximately 100 nanometers large. A human hair is 70 000 nanometers large. 70 000/ 100 = 700 so your approximation of the virus being 1/1000th the size of a human hair is reasonably accurate.

However, in your infinite wisdom as an armchair epidemiologist, you've failed to remember that viruses (outside of lab conditions) are always bonded to something larger. The larger droplets that you breath out when you're talking (or in your case, spewing misinformation) can be over 1000 nanometers large, especially if the droplets are visible. All medical grade or cloth face coverings have a pore size of 100 - 300 nanometers meaning these 1000nm+ droplets are stopped in their tracks, and that's even before we get into electrostatic filtration whereby the even smaller droplets are held in suspension by the static between the fibers of the material.
Going Underground wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 12:15
I still run twice a week I find myself out of breath after briskly walking one flight of stairs....
I'm curious as to how you've come to the conclusion that a face covering can't stop a virus (100 nanometers) but can stop you from having a good supply of air (oxygen is 0.3 nanometers, nitrogen is also about 0.3 nanometers, carbon dioxide is 0.33 nanometers). Either you have to go all in on face coverings being good for nothing, cant even block a virus that's 100nm large, or go all in on face coverings making it hard for you to breath because they block too much air.


You can't have both facts be true, and if you want to say face coverings block nothing then you'll have to chalk your shortness of breath up to something else.

But hey... you know what shortness of breath is a common symptom of... :wink:

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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by tubeguru » 27 Jan 2021, 18:19

lucybaell wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 15:09
Going Underground wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 12:15
(a droplet of the alleged virus is 1000th the size of a human hair so that's not going to escape through the fabric then)
Fact check: A molecule of COVID-19 is quoted to be approximately 100 nanometers large. A human hair is 70 000 nanometers large. 70 000/ 100 = 700 so your approximation of the virus being 1/1000th the size of a human hair is reasonably accurate.

However, in your infinite wisdom as an armchair epidemiologist, you've failed to remember that viruses (outside of lab conditions) are always bonded to something larger. The larger droplets that you breath out when you're talking (or in your case, spewing misinformation) can be over 1000 nanometers large, especially if the droplets are visible. All medical grade or cloth face coverings have a pore size of 100 - 300 nanometers meaning these 1000nm+ droplets are stopped in their tracks, and that's even before we get into electrostatic filtration whereby the even smaller droplets are held in suspension by the static between the fibers of the material.
Going Underground wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 12:15
I still run twice a week I find myself out of breath after briskly walking one flight of stairs....
I'm curious as to how you've come to the conclusion that a face covering can't stop a virus (100 nanometers) but can stop you from having a good supply of air (oxygen is 0.3 nanometers, nitrogen is also about 0.3 nanometers, carbon dioxide is 0.33 nanometers). Either you have to go all in on face coverings being good for nothing, cant even block a virus that's 100nm large, or go all in on face coverings making it hard for you to breath because they block too much air.


You can't have both facts be true, and if you want to say face coverings block nothing then you'll have to chalk your shortness of breath up to something else.

But hey... you know what shortness of breath is a common symptom of... :wink:
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by EastActionWoman » 27 Jan 2021, 21:21

tubeguru wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 18:19
lucybaell wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 15:09
Going Underground wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 12:15
(a droplet of the alleged virus is 1000th the size of a human hair so that's not going to escape through the fabric then)
Fact check: A molecule of COVID-19 is quoted to be approximately 100 nanometers large. A human hair is 70 000 nanometers large. 70 000/ 100 = 700 so your approximation of the virus being 1/1000th the size of a human hair is reasonably accurate.

However, in your infinite wisdom as an armchair epidemiologist, you've failed to remember that viruses (outside of lab conditions) are always bonded to something larger. The larger droplets that you breath out when you're talking (or in your case, spewing misinformation) can be over 1000 nanometers large, especially if the droplets are visible. All medical grade or cloth face coverings have a pore size of 100 - 300 nanometers meaning these 1000nm+ droplets are stopped in their tracks, and that's even before we get into electrostatic filtration whereby the even smaller droplets are held in suspension by the static between the fibers of the material.
Going Underground wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 12:15
I still run twice a week I find myself out of breath after briskly walking one flight of stairs....
I'm curious as to how you've come to the conclusion that a face covering can't stop a virus (100 nanometers) but can stop you from having a good supply of air (oxygen is 0.3 nanometers, nitrogen is also about 0.3 nanometers, carbon dioxide is 0.33 nanometers). Either you have to go all in on face coverings being good for nothing, cant even block a virus that's 100nm large, or go all in on face coverings making it hard for you to breath because they block too much air.


You can't have both facts be true, and if you want to say face coverings block nothing then you'll have to chalk your shortness of breath up to something else.

But hey... you know what shortness of breath is a common symptom of... :wink:
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Re: Over a year since last R15 / Tube meet up

Post by Golf » 27 Jan 2021, 22:19

I respect lucy for being for what looks like she is a very clever person. Mask wearing evidence is debatable some good and some bad for wearing and non wearing.

All i can say it does change the way u inhale its not natural leading to respiratory problems down the line. It should be limited for short periods and should not be mandatory.

And i can say this the people that are fearful of the virus the ones that constantly praise the government follow even the really stupid rules. Stick these stupid unreliable tests up their noses and give them the stats that they constantly lie with and politicians dont follow the rules themselves. I hope this saturday coming u see businesses say no more reopen because they cant keep being shut as they be out of business soon anyway. And give the government a good kick up the arse.
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