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Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 09 Nov 2020, 20:50
by RJSRdg
One I thought of a couple of weeks ago.

Fifty or so randomly selected stations from all modes Zones 1-6 (you can throw in the Ruislip Lido Railway as well if you like!)

The object is NOT to visit all the stations in the set time, or even the most, but the rarest (i.e. the stations visited by the fewest other competitors).

It might well require a spreadsheet to calculate the scores, as I anticipate the players to score something like

2^(n-v)

points for each station, where n is the number of competitors and v is the number of competitors who visited the station.

So if everyone visits one of the stations, that will only be worth one point. However if there are ten competitors and only one player visits it, he will score 2^9 = 512 points.

The 'interesting' part lies in trading off whether to visit the 'easier' stations (thereby getting quite a few in but probably visited by lots of people) or the more distant ones that you are likely to be able to visit fewer of, but likely to be visited by fewer people). Of course if nearly everyone rushes off and visits the distant stations but one player decides to visit the closer stations, he could end up winning....

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 09 Nov 2020, 21:59
by al
A variant / extension of the first part of Nordic Combined - could be interesting!

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 10 Nov 2020, 19:59
by Lunaticonthegrass
Insane, pointless, involving a large element of luck and a confusing set of rules...

The epitome of Tube Challenging!

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 10 Nov 2020, 21:00
by trains 500
thats so confusing and needless

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 15:26
by A Challenge
trains 500 wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 18:12 how about the 61 stations shown within the "london" area on the back of the london and south east rail map. its not as bad (long) as it initially seems
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Isn't it, that looks quite a long challenge - probably would take most of the day - as each line's last station inside the London Zonal area is shown. I do quite like the idea though, sounds like an interesting day. Would this include Stratford International and Stratford, one or the other or just Stratford given that's the name given, as they are separate stations? Also with the separate sections to St Pancras.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 17:31
by trains 500
not stratford international as it isnt on this map. yes both st pancras and kings cross
add this to that list of challenges that will never get done lol

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 23:14
by RJSRdg
A stop is shown on the southeastern services at Stratford as part of an interchange, in much the same way as both Paddington Underground stations (or both Hammersmiths) are shown as a single interchange on the Tube map, where both have to be visited in a FNC.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 15:25
by RJSRdg
Another one from me:

The Snooker Challenge - travel at least one stop on the Circle, District, Bakerloo, Victoria, H&C and Northern (in that order) in the shortest time. No other lines may be used, and each of the six lines listed may only be used at their correct point in the sequence.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 14 Dec 2020, 23:07
by Lunaticonthegrass
RJSRdg wrote: 12 Dec 2020, 15:25 Another one from me:

The Snooker Challenge - travel at least one stop on the Circle, District, Bakerloo, Victoria, H&C and Northern (in that order) in the shortest time. No other lines may be used, and each of the six lines listed may only be used at their correct point in the sequence.
Wouldn't everybody go Blackfriars :arrow: Temple :arrow: Embankment :arrow: Oxford Circus :arrow: Warren Street :arrow: Euston Square (Run) :arrow: KXSP :arrow: Euston? (Or something very similar?)

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 14 Dec 2020, 23:51
by RJSRdg
Not necessarily - if starting on the bottom, there are at least four opening gambits with three different starting stations. There are several potential starting points in the Paddington area too although I suspect a bottom start may be quicker.

Timing will be key though - missing the pink at Euston Square could have a big impact, although there is an alternative finish possible.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 01:36
by greatkingrat
You should have to do 15 stops on the Central line and 15 stops on the Northern line first.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:34
by EastActionWoman
greatkingrat wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 01:36 You should have to do 15 stops on the Central line and 15 stops on the Northern line first.
And alternating between the two lines :lol:

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 08:43
by Iain
...avoiding TCR :lol:

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 13:43
by Lunaticonthegrass
...and Bank :lol: :lol:

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 15:04
by Iain
Actually if we extend this logic then you shouldn't visit Ealing Broadway, Notting Hill Gate, or Oxford Circus either.