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Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 10:13
by A Challenge
The cable car, unlike LO or DLR, is not a rail-based mode of transport.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 10:56
by The Orange One
It depends on the definition of the challenge. If it's all modes on the Tube Map, then the cable car must be included as it is a mode on the tube map, fruitless gimmick or not.

For the record, when the eastern end of the Jubilee Line is out of action for whatever reason, it's actually extremely helpful as a means of crossing the river to access the DLR etc., and I would argue therefore holds credibility as a mode of transport for that reason alone.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 13:37
by trains 500
i seeit as a all modes on the tube map challenge so cable car would be included

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 13:36
by A Challenge
The Orange One wrote:
11 Aug 2020, 10:56
It depends on the definition of the challenge. If it's all modes on the Tube Map, then the cable car must be included as it is a mode on the tube map, fruitless gimmick or not.

For the record, when the eastern end of the Jubilee Line is out of action for whatever reason, it's actually extremely helpful as a means of crossing the river to access the DLR etc., and I would argue therefore holds credibility as a mode of transport for that reason alone.
It's effectively an RRB then (running at all times though)?

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 22:38
by RJSRdg
stepneygreen05 wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 16:25
Depends on whether you see the cable car as a fruitless gimmick or a legit and useful mode of transport. I see it as a tourist attraction, others may beg to differ.
For VAT purposes, anything you can board at one point and disembark (and leave the station) somewhere else counts as public transport and is not liable for VAT (which includes the majority of heritage railways).

So by that definition, the cable car counts as public transport (but the MailRail ride in the Postal Museum does not).


As a variation on this 'All Modes' challenge:

The Cross London Challenge

Starting at Moor Park (the only station on the edge of Zone 6) travel into Zone 1, then back out to Zone 6.

The following modes of transport must be used:

All 11 LU lines
Overground
Tramlink
DLR
Bus
National Rail (any operator)
Cable Car
Thames Clipper

The finishing point must be either
(a) the last station on any line prior to that line crossing the Zone 6 outer boundary; or
(b) a branch terminus in Zone 6.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 28 Aug 2020, 09:06
by Lunaticonthegrass
Would we be allowed to go beyond Zone 6?

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 28 Aug 2020, 22:27
by RJSRdg
If you wanted to - just as you're allowed to go outside Zone 2 on an R15.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 28 Aug 2020, 22:28
by RJSRdg
Trying to work out why you'd want to - I guess you'd be going up to Watford and across to the Overground. Hadn't thought of that one!

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 16:54
by Lunaticonthegrass
Nah - Watford underground to Watford Junction is far too long. Was thinking Rickmansworth then Chiltern train for quicker way into town.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 07 Sep 2020, 22:09
by tintin
RJSRdg wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 21:20
there are a number of hotels around the Excel (and one near the O2), so it is quite possible that people attending late night concerts at the O2 may be staying in a hotel near Excel and use the cable car to get there.
Doesn't the cable car stop at 9pm?

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 14:51
by Lunaticonthegrass
Ultimate Zone 1 (Truly insane) -

Zone 1, but Parks Challenge style i.e. get out and take a photo of the roundel outside every station.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 16:44
by Lunaticonthegrass
P.S. This one occured to me after loads of my friends asking me if one has to get out at every station on a Tube Challenge.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 17:11
by al
The actual catching the tube element slows you down, it feels like it would be quicker to run between the majority of stations!

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 07 Oct 2020, 18:04
by Lunaticonthegrass
It probably is, but you'd still need to allow for a lot of running up and down escalators, plus catching far more trains than a normal Zone 1.

Re: The Raven Alternative Challenge ideas

Posted: 09 Nov 2020, 18:12
by trains 500
how about the 61 stations shown within the "london" area on the back of the london and south east rail map. its not as bad (long) as it initially seems
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