Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

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Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

Post by Iain » 23 Feb 2018, 20:06

Given I'm probably the forum member who lives nearest, I should probably have tried a run earlier, but I didn't. I've spent a bit of time on it this week, and may spend more, so with that in mind, here's a thread.

First attempt write up:
Iain wrote:
22 Feb 2018, 17:08
Just back from a trip around the tramlink - it hardly seemed worth creating a separate thread.

I hereby declare the worst time yet of 2:13:49. It was always intended as a scouting trip but I figured I may as well record a time.

I started at Wimbledon, and quickly reached Reeves Corner. It was a short trip to Church Street, but I needed to go one more stop, which included a steep hill as many will know. I'd planned to go to Elmers End first, with a nice connection to Beckenham Jct. Sadly I'd massively over-allowed for this transfer, so either had to wait 8 minutes or gamble on a good connection off an unplanned BJ tram (oo-er missus). I decided to ride the first tram to Church Street, and to see if I could pick something vaguely useful up at Reeves, with the original Elmers train as a fall back. No luck at Reeves, so back to the planned tram.

This got held at a signal, which made the connection at Elmers tight but workable. I took the train to Clock House, then decided to see if making use of the nearby tram stop was a workable plan. Another 8 minute wait, which I used to scout for busses. Finally, the tram came, and I headed into BJ. I had looked at a zero minuter here, which categorically didn't work. The display indicated five minutes until the tram left, so I went looking for a toilet. I didn't take long, but the tram left at least two minutes before the time indicated by the display. So - ten more minutes wasted when I could have waited to pee, and then back towards Sandilands. A narrow miss here and another 8 minute wait for the Addington tram.

The tram went pretty fast, but the final time was slow. Then back into Croydon to scout the run from Centrale.
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Re: Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

Post by Iain » 23 Feb 2018, 20:23

Second Attempt: 1:56:48

Today went a bit better, but still not anywhere near to my 1:40 plan. I set out from Wimbledon a minute after the planned time, and the tram crawled, so after a bit of thought I decided to restart, as my planned run in Croydon looked iffy.Second time things went better, but checking my app as I reached Croydon, I realised I couldn't hang about. Today I managed to cross the road without having to wait for the tram, but as i passed Church Street, it showed three Wimbledon trains but nothing for Beckenham J. A couple passed me, and I arrived at George Street with 30 seconds to spare, but no BJ tram 0 unless I wanted to wait 8 minutes. I went for the Elmers End train, which looked like it might just connect, but due to some holds it didn't. I'd hoped for a quick double back to the BJ train a few minutes behind, but this had decided to terminate early, so causing further delay.

Looking at the indicators as we passed through the stops, there seemed to be quite an uneven spread of trams on the branch, and today there was quite a wait at BJ. After yesterday I skipped a visit to the coffee shop, but I'd have had time. We headed back to Sandilands. A sub 2 was possible with a quick turnaround there, abd the app showed one minute to go to the outgoing train t New Addington. The indicators said "due" on the opposite platform as my tram pulled on, so I crossed the tracks speedily just as the tram pulled in.

The home straight went without incident, and my hunger was sated with a visit to the nearby Gregg's.

I think my route's solid, so I may well give it another try soon!
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Former DLR 45 station record holder (with Glen, Andi and Stevo) - 2h:08m:57s
All lines: 46:11 (6th equal)
Zone One 2:52:51 (thanks Glen)

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Re: Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

Post by Iain » 18 Dec 2018, 16:23

Third attempt 1:50:13

The train out if Wimbo made such good progress that it caught up with the one ahead, leading to a couple of annoying holds. They, together with my lack of fitness cost me a tram at George Street, leading to a 5 minute wait for the next tram - to Wimbledon! Just before it stopped I saw a tram rounding the bend into Reeves, figured I'd miss it there so sped off down a back alley towards Centrale. Somehow I made it and was on the way to Beckenham. A fairly quick in and out there, back to Birkbeck and I pelted down the road to Elmers. I made the tram out with a minute to spare, and thought I might get close to 1:40 with a bit of luck at Sandilands. A couple of holds on the way down cost me, and I ended up with a 9 minute wait before the tram to Addington.

So near and yet so far!
Full Network: Three completions, Best time: 17:18:18 - thanks Glen, Andrew and Rhys!
Former DLR 45 station record holder (with Glen, Andi and Stevo) - 2h:08m:57s
All lines: 46:11 (6th equal)
Zone One 2:52:51 (thanks Glen)

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Re: Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

Post by DavidC » 18 Dec 2018, 19:13

Damn, you've overtaken me! I'm very concerned to see your use of a word like "pelted" - my "brisk strolls" definitely aren't in your league! Well done with the Church Street/Centrale move (perhaps inspired by Geoff's recent video?) - I haven't tried it yet. More significantly, I'm still trying to get my head around dynamically deciding on the best of the diverse approaches around BJ/EE (trams, buses, walking, planes, trains and automobiles) - the theory is all fine but I really struggle with optimal decision-making on the fly at the eastern end.
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Re: Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

Post by DavidC » 18 Dec 2018, 19:18

OK, that was a seasonal reference: obviously not automobiles and (realistically) not planes :-)
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Re: Iain's Tram Trials and Tribulations

Post by Iain » 18 Dec 2018, 19:47

Yep - I have to say I was dubious when I saw it in Geoff's video, but it worked. Looking at the video, he was at Centrale about 30 minutes in, whereas I was stuck at George Street. I can't believe his walking beat my running, so maybe he got lucky/I got unlucky with the spacing.

My idea of pelting may not be the same as yours! I'm really not that fast.

I may give it another go over the holidays
Full Network: Three completions, Best time: 17:18:18 - thanks Glen, Andrew and Rhys!
Former DLR 45 station record holder (with Glen, Andi and Stevo) - 2h:08m:57s
All lines: 46:11 (6th equal)
Zone One 2:52:51 (thanks Glen)

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