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New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by tangy » 28 Jun 2018, 23:26

The BERC here to sort out dates for the 2018/19 Random 15 Championship.

There is no Tube Olympics this year, so will be looking at the usual "one round roughly every two months" scenario with three normal rounds and three twist rounds.

We have the first two rounds pretty much fixed already, these are:

Round 1: Saturday 22nd September (Normal)- Cannon Street Run
Round 2: Saturday 17th November (Champion's Twist)- day after Children in Need

Round 6 will be in its usual slot- the day after the Zone 1 Challenge Cup (on Saturday 1st June 2019).

I am looking for the other rounds to be in early January (National Rail twist), late February (normal) and early April (twist round) but obviously avoiding Easter.

So I am asking you the challengers... is there any dates you definitely CANNOT attend or is there other events that I could tie an R15 onto (e.g. Comic/Sport Relief). If so speak up NOW...or don't complain when the chosen date does not fit your other commitments!

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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by dstock17 » 29 Jun 2018, 17:09

With 2 days to spare he has kept his word 😃 interesting dates i will attend round 1

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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by Going Underground » 29 Jun 2018, 20:30

Those two dates are good for me :)
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by xcooler123 » 01 Jul 2018, 15:10

For the unconfirmed 3 rounds-

Round 3 - Saturday 12th or 19th January 2019 look to be your best dates (Saturday 5th Jan a bit too close to New Year and people may still be off on holiday).

Round 4 & 5 - Easter is late next year (Sunday 21st April 2019 is Easter Sunday) so most schools will be off on holiday the 2 weeks before that. Comic Relief is Friday 15th March 2019. Therefore, my suggestion would be Round 4 on Saturday 16th March 2019 and Round 5 on Saturday 27th April 2019 (avoiding Easter Holidays). This does put it on the same weekend as the London Marathon like Round 5 this year!
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by dstock17 » 01 Jul 2018, 15:16

Hopefully I have a place in London marathon I would recommend not as security would be very tight.

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Post by Going Underground » 01 Jul 2018, 19:58

dstock17 wrote:
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Hopefully I have a place in London marathon I would recommend not as security would be very tight.
Not been an issue previously where we have used this weekend at least twice...
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by RJSRdg » 01 Jul 2018, 23:37

Although January is down as the 'National Rail' twist. it will also be the first R15 after the opening of the central section of Crossrail.

Cause for a 'commemorative start' at one of the Crossrail stations?
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by tangy » 02 Jul 2018, 07:39

RJSRdg wrote:
01 Jul 2018, 23:37
Although January is down as the 'National Rail' twist. it will also be the first R15 after the opening of the central section of Crossrail.

Cause for a 'commemorative start' at one of the Crossrail stations?
Peter has already broached this idea on the Facebook group and we are discussing how it would work with regards to the ticket barriers determining whether it is the "same or different station" as applies to the NR twist in particular.
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by hopeful traveller » 01 Aug 2018, 02:19

tangy wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 07:39
RJSRdg wrote:
01 Jul 2018, 23:37
Although January is down as the 'National Rail' twist. it will also be the first R15 after the opening of the central section of Crossrail.

Cause for a 'commemorative start' at one of the Crossrail stations?
Peter has already broached this idea on the Facebook group and we are discussing how it would work with regards to the ticket barriers determining whether it is the "same or different station" as applies to the NR twist in particular.
I was under the impression (the) CrossElizabethRailLine would not be separate stations from the tube stations they will link with, much like the Overground in many ways. Farringdon springs to mind immediately: are Farringdon NR and Farringdon subsurface listed as two stations for an NR twist? Because to my mind they really ought not to be.
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by RJSRdg » 02 Aug 2018, 19:26

As Tangy has said, it depends whether you need to pass through barriers to get from one station to another.

For Network Rail R15 purposes, the Underground stations at Paddington, Marylebone, Euston, KXSP, Liverpool Street, London Bridge, Waterloo and Victoria count as separate stations to their NR counterparts (and the 2 LU stations at Paddington are separate to each other) because you have to pass through barriers to get between them.

On the other hand, Ealing Broadway, Kensington Olympia, West Brompton, Wimbledon, Stratford and I'm sure a fair number of others, count as being the same station as their NR counterparts because you don't need to pass through a barrier. (Nor do Richmond, Kew Gardens, Gunnersbury and stations from Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone because NR/LO and London Underground use the same rails).
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by hopeful traveller » 16 Aug 2018, 11:37

Rickmansworth to Amersham too.
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by Nigel » 16 Aug 2018, 12:55

RJSRdg wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 19:26
As Tangy has said, it depends whether you need to pass through barriers to get from one station to another.

For Network Rail R15 purposes, the Underground stations at Paddington, Marylebone, Euston, KXSP, Liverpool Street, London Bridge, Waterloo and Victoria count as separate stations to their NR counterparts (and the 2 LU stations at Paddington are separate to each other) because you have to pass through barriers to get between them.

On the other hand, Ealing Broadway, Kensington Olympia, West Brompton, Wimbledon, Stratford and I'm sure a fair number of others, count as being the same station as their NR counterparts because you don't need to pass through a barrier. (Nor do Richmond, Kew Gardens, Gunnersbury and stations from Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone because NR/LO and London Underground use the same rails).
I used a similar definition for my 60+ Card Challenge in March. Having carefully researched all potential shared/distinct stations, I came up with the list described on the 60+ Challenge website: https://60pluschallenge.wordpress.com/the-stations/

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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by DrainBrain » 31 Aug 2018, 09:54

tangy wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 07:39
RJSRdg wrote:
01 Jul 2018, 23:37
Although January is down as the 'National Rail' twist. it will also be the first R15 after the opening of the central section of Crossrail.

Cause for a 'commemorative start' at one of the Crossrail stations?
Peter has already broached this idea on the Facebook group and we are discussing how it would work with regards to the ticket barriers determining whether it is the "same or different station" as applies to the NR twist in particular.
Seems like this won't be possible anyway: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45367990

I went looking for confirmation on the TfL website, but couldn't immediately find anything.

Maybe it'll be ready for the start of next year's R15 season.
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Re: New Random 15 Championship season.

Post by nozzacook » 21 Sep 2018, 10:20

xcooler123 wrote:
01 Jul 2018, 15:10
For the unconfirmed 3 rounds-

Round 3 - Saturday 12th or 19th January 2019 look to be your best dates (Saturday 5th Jan a bit too close to New Year and people may still be off on holiday).

Round 4 & 5 - Easter is late next year (Sunday 21st April 2019 is Easter Sunday) so most schools will be off on holiday the 2 weeks before that. Comic Relief is Friday 15th March 2019. Therefore, my suggestion would be Round 4 on Saturday 16th March 2019 and Round 5 on Saturday 27th April 2019 (avoiding Easter Holidays). This does put it on the same weekend as the London Marathon like Round 5 this year!
Round 5 we could reintroduce the R26 starting at Greenwich and finishing at green park as per 2014.
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