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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 10:41

greatkingrat wrote:Is it currently served by Merseyrail?
No
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by GuyBarry » 20 Oct 2015, 11:02

Are you going to answer DavidC's question?

(That's not one of the questions, by the way!)
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 11:48

GuyBarry wrote:Are you going to answer DavidC's question?

(That's not one of the questions, by the way!)
Yes (10/20)
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 11:50

DavidC wrote:Is it in a county that directly adjoins (Greater) London ?
Yes (10/20) (inc. Merseyrail)
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by GuyBarry » 20 Oct 2015, 13:29

Is it north of the Thames?
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 14:32

GuyBarry wrote:Is it north of the Thames?
No (11/20)
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by The Orange One » 20 Oct 2015, 15:08

Is it open?
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by GuyBarry » 20 Oct 2015, 15:27

I think the answer to my opening question presupposes the answer "Yes" to that one!
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 15:27

The Orange One wrote:Is it open?
If you mean it is in currently operational use then I have updated the opening post. What did you mean?
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by GuyBarry » 20 Oct 2015, 15:45

Was it part of Southern Region before "sectorization"?
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 15:55

GuyBarry wrote:Was it part of Southern Region before "sectorization"?
Yes (from here) (12/20)
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by GuyBarry » 20 Oct 2015, 16:03

Well I'm stumped. "The Southern Railway, being relatively self-contained and operated largely by electric traction, was incorporated almost intact as the new Southern Region.

The Southern Region also inherited some independent light railways, also nationalised at the same time, namely the East Kent Light Railway, the Kent and East Sussex Railway and the North Devon and Cornwall Junction Light Railway."

You've said that the station wasn't on the pre-nationalization Southern Railway, so it must have been on one of the independent light railways - but they wouldn't have run direct services to London! The only thing I can conceivably think of is that the station opened on an existing line some time between grouping and nationalization, and I don't have enough historical knowledge to know what stations might come into that category. Anyone?
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 17:12

GuyBarry wrote:Well I'm stumped. "The Southern Railway, being relatively self-contained and operated largely by electric traction, was incorporated almost intact as the new Southern Region.

The Southern Region also inherited some independent light railways, also nationalised at the same time, namely the East Kent Light Railway, the Kent and East Sussex Railway and the North Devon and Cornwall Junction Light Railway."

You've said that the station wasn't on the pre-nationalization Southern Railway, so it must have been on one of the independent light railways - but they wouldn't have run direct services to London! The only thing I can conceivably think of is that the station opened on an existing line some time between grouping and nationalization, and I don't have enough historical knowledge to know what stations might come into that category. Anyone?
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by A Challenge » 20 Oct 2015, 17:20

GuyBarry wrote:You've said that the station wasn't on the pre-nationalization Southern Railway...
Where? (I am not saying that is wrong, though)
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Re: Where am I? ALL UK STATIONS!

Post by GuyBarry » 20 Oct 2015, 17:22

Can I make sure I've got everything right so far? As far as I'm aware, you've told us:

(1) The station has direct services to London.
(2) The station did not become part of the Southern Railway in 1923.
(3) The station became part of BR's Southern Region in 1948.

As far as I understand it, Southern Region consisted of all the former Southern Railway network plus a few independent light rail lines. Those latter lines wouldn't have direct services to London. No new railway lines were built in the area between 1923 and 1948 (as far as I know). Therefore the only possibility is that the station opened on an existing line some time between 1923 and 1948.

Can you confirm this?
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