Rare Entries Quiz V - Formula One

[The Raven]

Right here we go!

1. Name a Formula One World Champion who is currently competing in the 2013 season
Kimi Raikkonen (palkanetoijala31, tubeguru)
Jenson Button (hopeful traveller)
Fernando Alonso (greatkingrat)
Lewis Hamilton (tractakid)

Incorrect answers:
Renault (joy54)

2. Name a circuit that hosted an official Grand Prix race in the 1950 season
Spa-Francorchamps (palkanetoijala31, hopeful traveller)
Monza (joy54)
Monaco (greatkingrat, tractakid)

Incorrect answers:
Zandvoort (tubeguru)

3. Name a female driver who has entered at least one Grand Prix in Formula One
Giovanni Amati (palkanetoijala3, hopeful traveller, greatkingrat)
Lella Lombardi joy54
Divina Galica (tractakid)
Maria Teresa de Filippis (tubeguru)

4. Name a colour found on the tyres used in the Formula One 2013 season
Yellow (palkanetoijala31)
Blue (hopeful traveller)
Black (joy54, greatkingrat, tubeguru)
Orange (tractakid)

5. Name a driver who has won three or more Monaco Grand Prix races
Michael Schumacher (palkanetoijala31, joy54)
Ayrton Senna (hopeful traveller)
Alain Prost (greatkingrat, tractakid)
Stirling Moss (tubeguru)

6. Name a drive who won both the Monaco Grand Prix and 24 Hour Le Mans race in there lifetime
Graham Hill (palkanetoijala31, tractakid)
Maurice Trintigant (hopeful traveller)
Bruce McLaren (greatkingrat)
Jochen Rindt (tubeguru)

Incorrect answers:
Didier Peroni (joy54)

7. Name a British winner of the Formula One World Championship
Mike Hawthorn (palkanetoijala31)
Damon Hill (hopeful traveller, greatkingrat)
Jackie Stewart (joy54)
James Hunt (tractakid)

Incorrect answers:
Lotus (tubeguru)

8. Name a Formula One constructor who won a Grand Prix race in the 2012 season
Williams Renault (palkanetoijala31, hopeful traveller, joy54)
Ferrari (greatkingrat)
Mercedes (tractakid)
McLaren (tubeguru)

9. Name one of Jenson Button’s racing team-mates he has had during his career in Formula One
Jacques Villeneuve (palkanetoijala31, greatkingrat)
Jarno Trulli (hopeful traveller)
Ralf Schumacher (joy54, tubeguru)
Anthony Davidson tractakid

10. Name a Formula One world champion who has had his race ended by crashing into the “Wall of Champions” at the Canadian Grand Prix
Damon Hill (palkanetoijala31, joy54)
Jenson Button (hopeful traveller)
Jacques Villeneuve (greatkingrat)
Michael Schumacher (tractakid)
Jenson Button (tubeguru)

Results
6th joy54 – 1152
5th palkanetoijala31 – 576
4th tubeguru – 384
3rd greatkingrat – 144
2nd hopeful traveller – 72
1st tractakid - 8

Let the moaning commence that I didn't count your answer as correct.

[tubeguru]

As you can imagine, I have issues with the wording of several of your questions, but I don't have the time to point out the ambiguities right now.

I see joy54 also took advantage of that, for question one.

[tubeguru]

I also notice that for the colour on the tyres question, you have allowed three of us to enter "black" as an answer. I can only assume that you are happy to allow it because more than one person said it. Other answers which have taken advantage of the ambiguous nature of the questions have been penalised when only one person has given that answer.

[joy54]

I would have to agree with Tubeguru (well I would wouldn't I!).

With these quizzes, you either have to take it on the chin that the question was worded ambiguously and hand out the points, or like Kevin did in the last quiz, reclarify the questions and allow entrants to alter their answer.

Question 1 was worded "Name a Formula One World Champion who is currently competing in the 2013 season" - both constructors and drivers are 'Formula One World Champions' - the distinction is the word 'Drivers' or 'Constructors' in the title. This can be verified on Wikipedia (http://goo.gl/51hzx), the BBC website (http://goo.gl/oSSIv) and in the first paragraph of the official F1 rules and regulations (http://goo.gl/YaS1).
--It seems Tubeguru took advantage of a similar wording ambiguity in Question 7

Question 6 was worded "Name a driver who won both the Monaco Grand Prix and 24 Hour Le Mans race in there lifetime". Here Didier Peroni won the 24 Hour Le Mans race in 1978 but also won the Formula 3 Monaco Grand Prix one year earlier in 1977 ( http://www.formula2.net/F377_19.htm). Nowhere in the question was the Monaco Grand Prix clarified as the Formula 1 incarnation and thus all Monaco Grand Prix must be accepted.

You would have to say that a precedent has been set for 'out of the box' answers with Black being accepted for Question 4 and it doesn't make sense to accept one without the other?

[The Raven]

I also notice that for the colour on the tyres question, you have allowed three of us to enter "black" as an answer. I can only assume that you are happy to allow it because more than one person said it. Other answers which have taken advantage of the ambiguous nature of the questions have been penalised when only one person has given that answer.

I accepted "Black" as an answer since F1 tyres are well, black (with coloured indicators on them).

[tractakid]

I'm happy with this.

[The Raven]

I do apologize for the ambiguous nature of question 1 and 7.

In my brain if I hear the term "World Champion" I only think of drivers.

[The Raven]

If you do count the joy54 and tubeguru's answers the results are:

6th palkanetoijala31 – 576
5th greatkingrat – 144
=3rd joy54 – 72
=3rd thopeful traveller – 72
2nd tubeguru – 24
1st tractakid - 8

[Iain]

Question 6 was worded "Name a driver who won both the Monaco Grand Prix and 24 Hour Le Mans race in there lifetime". Here Didier Peroni won the 24 Hour Le Mans race in 1978 but also won the Formula 3 Monaco Grand Prix one year earlier in 1977 ( http://www.formula2.net/F377_19.htm). Nowhere in the question was the Monaco Grand Prix clarified as the Formula 1 incarnation and thus all Monaco Grand Prix must be accepted.

except that it clearly states formula one in the thread title.

[joy54]

except that it clearly states formula one in the thread title.

It certainly does, but in spite of that, we can't take that to mean every question in the quiz is 100% orientated around Formula One. The quiz title is descriptive yes but you have to answer the questions as they are given. Question 6 clearly references non-F1 aspects (Le Mans) and it is not out of the question that Formula 3 as a feeder for Formula 1 would be appropriate.

Another example would be Kev's quiz which was titled Rock and Prog Rock but referenced Jazz and Folk music heavily in a couple of questions. Musicians and bands under these genres were accepted in a number of answers and no one mentioned anything.

[joy54]

except that it clearly states formula one in the thread title.

Btw I think just to confirm definitively, whilst constructing the next quiz I read the rules that tubeguru kindly wrote and he did clearly state:

Try not to leave loopholes in the questions, as people like me will exploit them and demand one point for a unique answer (see steeevooo's last quiz). His topic was the London Underground, and he asked the question, "Name a station that starts with a vowel". Now as he didn't specify a London Underground station, I answered "Aberystwyth" and got a point for it. I suspect he assumed that because the topic of the quiz was "London Underground" we would all ASSUME that he meant an LU station. Not so! So try to avoid things like that for your own sanity ...

[tubeguru]

I was going to quote that (and other stuff) in my complaint that the quiz master had marked two of my answers incorrectly.

But I really can't be arsed. My policy now is that any quiz which contains badly-worded quizzes will simply be ignored.