Rare Entries Quiz II (Trains/Rail)
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Re: Rare Entries Quiz II (Trains/Rail)
Yes, having looked over it, I agree. If you're going to have an absolute number of penalty points applied, then it will have to be considerably fewer than 50.
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Also, arent 10 of each person's point total redundant? I think if the score is to be based on addition, it should be the total of other people that stated the same answer you did. It seems silly to have 10 points simply for answering each question yourself.
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However, as it was Tangy's system, I shall leave it to him to address our concerns. If he wants to leave it as it is, I'm happy to implement it.
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Re: Rare Entries Quiz II (Trains/Rail)
It actually makes less difference than you would expect. The top 4 would be the same under either system.
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The scoring system for this is based on the BBC quiz show Pointless, whereby the idea is to score as low as possible by thinking of answers you think no one else would think of.
So in the quiz you get 100 responses from the public and if the question is "name an English city" and 59 people say Bristol, which subsequently you pick as an answer that is what you score, 59 points. Less obvious answers, such as Wells, would of course score lower.
This is the basis I took for the scoring of these quizzes, which I also run, quite successfully on my Bus Forum where they are known as "Pointless Quizzes." The scoring, as explained, is the product of the number of people that give the same answer as you for each question.
For example, in this quiz four people responded with EMT for the Crewe TOC question, since four people said EMT then those four people recieved four points i.e. the same number of points as people who said that answer. Of course this score varies depending on how many submit answers for the particular quiz and how many say the same answers.... These quizzes are better the more entrants there are to each one.
The penalty of 50 points was applied simply as being half the penalty in the real life quiz for a wrong answer. This can be lowered to say 25, the penalty obviously needs to be higher than the total number of people that enter.
Hope this clears a few things up.
So in the quiz you get 100 responses from the public and if the question is "name an English city" and 59 people say Bristol, which subsequently you pick as an answer that is what you score, 59 points. Less obvious answers, such as Wells, would of course score lower.
This is the basis I took for the scoring of these quizzes, which I also run, quite successfully on my Bus Forum where they are known as "Pointless Quizzes." The scoring, as explained, is the product of the number of people that give the same answer as you for each question.
For example, in this quiz four people responded with EMT for the Crewe TOC question, since four people said EMT then those four people recieved four points i.e. the same number of points as people who said that answer. Of course this score varies depending on how many submit answers for the particular quiz and how many say the same answers.... These quizzes are better the more entrants there are to each one.
The penalty of 50 points was applied simply as being half the penalty in the real life quiz for a wrong answer. This can be lowered to say 25, the penalty obviously needs to be higher than the total number of people that enter.
Hope this clears a few things up.
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Re: Rare Entries Quiz II (Trains/Rail)
I just think it makes more sense that a minimum score, like Pointless, is 0 rather than 10. It is impossible to get a pointless answer, as your own answer to a question gives you a point.
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Re: Rare Entries Quiz II (Trains/Rail)
The minimum score for any one question is 1 (as only one person gave that answer). The minimum score for the whole quiz is 10 (that is if you give unique 1 point answers to all 10 questions in the quiz).tractakid wrote:I just think it makes more sense that a minimum score, like Pointless, is 0 rather than 10. It is impossible to get a pointless answer, as your own answer to a question gives you a point.
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I have just discovered (thanks to a thread on railforums) that Southeastern operate one daily service all the way to Bedford (From Ashford International). This means that City Thameslink should, after all, have been invalid.
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See the 13th post in this thread (page 1).
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Re: Rare Entries Quiz II (Trains/Rail)
That post says that FCC take over operation of all trains north of Blackfriars. This train I am talking about is operated by Southeastern all the way to Bedford, including of course City Thameslink.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/W42038/2013/04/19
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/W42038/2013/04/19
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Take it up with Tangy. I really can't be bothered to argue about it.
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I'm not fussed particularly whether the result changes. I just thought it was interesting, and want to ensure that it was not incorrectly marked next time.
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