Well spotted.
What happened was, I started off with intending to base it on whoever finished ahead out of the team mates. But somewhere along the line, I started to keep a track of who had finished ahead of each other in each race. I then completely forgot that the original scoring system was whoever finished ahead in the overall standings, and for some reason thought that I was doing it based on each race.
So, I can either go back to the original criteria, or we can go with the new one. My theory is that, in general, whoever has finished more races ahead of their team mate should, in theory, be ahead in the championship.
Would anyone be annoyed if we moved the scoring system for this to the "per race" criteria? We could do both ...
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Either way is fine by me.
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We'll see whether the two match at the end, and then everyone can argue about it. 
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With Felipe Massa extending his contract at Ferrari today, the category regarding his and Webber's leaving their respective teams at the end of this year is decided.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19962209
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Indian GP update.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Everyone keeps going on about it not being over if Vettel has a retirement, but it's not looking likely is it? So Vettel
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
No.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
I don't know.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Boring. ...
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
No heroics from the bottom teams today, so 12th place for Glock at Singapore looks like being the best.[/b]
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
This category is over - Grosjean wins.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
It's still a bit rubbish this year for controversy, isn't it?
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
This category is dead - both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Although I suspect Vettel will now drive off into the distance, it's been close enough for this to not be an overall walkover.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Let's say yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
So, another Herman Tilke-inspired bore-fest, with Red Bull's dominance now complete. No one else appears fast enough to compete. This one goes into the bottom half of the list for excitement, but I can't even remember if Hungary was more boring. It probably was.
Most exciting: Italy. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
You lot are rubbish.
Team mate head to heads:
Drivers in bold cannot now be caught by their team mate.
Hamilton 10, Button 7 (Button can now only draw level with Hamilton)
Vettel 11, Webber 6
Alonso 15, Massa 2
Schumacher 9, Rosberg 8
Raikkonen 15, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 11, di Resta 5
Kobayashi 9, Perez 8
Ricciardo 10, Vergne 7 (Vergne can now only draw level with Ricciardo)
Senna 11, Maldonaldo 6
Kovalainen 9, Petrov 8
Glock 12, Pic 5
de la Rosa 15, Karthikeyan
Next race: Another "great" Tilke circuit, Abu Dhabi.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Everyone keeps going on about it not being over if Vettel has a retirement, but it's not looking likely is it? So Vettel
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
No.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
I don't know.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Boring. ...
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
No heroics from the bottom teams today, so 12th place for Glock at Singapore looks like being the best.[/b]
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
This category is over - Grosjean wins.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
It's still a bit rubbish this year for controversy, isn't it?
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
This category is dead - both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Although I suspect Vettel will now drive off into the distance, it's been close enough for this to not be an overall walkover.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Let's say yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
So, another Herman Tilke-inspired bore-fest, with Red Bull's dominance now complete. No one else appears fast enough to compete. This one goes into the bottom half of the list for excitement, but I can't even remember if Hungary was more boring. It probably was.
Most exciting: Italy. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
You lot are rubbish.
Team mate head to heads:
Drivers in bold cannot now be caught by their team mate.
Hamilton 10, Button 7 (Button can now only draw level with Hamilton)
Vettel 11, Webber 6
Alonso 15, Massa 2
Schumacher 9, Rosberg 8
Raikkonen 15, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 11, di Resta 5
Kobayashi 9, Perez 8
Ricciardo 10, Vergne 7 (Vergne can now only draw level with Ricciardo)
Senna 11, Maldonaldo 6
Kovalainen 9, Petrov 8
Glock 12, Pic 5
de la Rosa 15, Karthikeyan
Next race: Another "great" Tilke circuit, Abu Dhabi.
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Abu Dhabi GP update.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Well, even with a penalty for cheating (they knew what they were doing), Red Bull struck it lucky here. Vettel got past the slow cars, and then before he had to bother with trying to pass the midfield, he was handed a safety car period during which he changed his tyres and front wing. We all thought he'd have to stop again, and he did, and once again was rewarded with a safety car, allowing him to close up to the leaders. He overtook Button, and that's about the only fast car he took on the track. Given how lucky he was today, he is now surely going to win the championship.
So after all that blather, Vettel still.
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull need five points, so this is done and dusted.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
No.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
Bloody McLaren! I was looking good for a point in this category and then they go and break down. No points for anyone on this, as no one predicted he would win.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Boring. ...
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
Nothing doing here today, although Kovalainen was running 12th at one point, and finished 13th.
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
This category is over - Grosjean wins.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
Yawn - still nothing of any interest has happened.
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
This category is dead - both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Ten points in it with two races to go. I think it's safe to say this has been close all year.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Let's say yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
I was expecting something better here, and with Vettel demoted down the grid we ended up with an exciting race. And any race that includes Raikkonen telling his pit crew to essentially bugger off is worthy of extra attention. So with that in mind, I am judging this race to be the most exciting so far.
Most exciting: Abu Dhabi. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
You lot are STILL rubbish.
Team mate head to heads:
Drivers in bold cannot now be caught by their team mate.
Hamilton 10, Button 8 (Button can now only draw level with Hamilton)
Vettel 12, Webber 6
Alonso 16, Massa 2
Schumacher 10, Rosberg 8 (Rosberg can now only draw level with Schumacher)
Raikkonen 16, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 11, di Resta 6
Kobayashi 10, Perez 8 (Perez can now only draw level with Kobayashi)
Ricciardo 11, Vergne 7
Senna 11, Maldonaldo 7
Kovalainen 10, Petrov 8 (Petrov can now only draw level with Kovalainen)
Glock 13, Pic 5
de la Rosa 16, Karthikeyan 2
Next race: an unknown quantity, so maybe something with crop up that takes it down to the wire in Brazil.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Well, even with a penalty for cheating (they knew what they were doing), Red Bull struck it lucky here. Vettel got past the slow cars, and then before he had to bother with trying to pass the midfield, he was handed a safety car period during which he changed his tyres and front wing. We all thought he'd have to stop again, and he did, and once again was rewarded with a safety car, allowing him to close up to the leaders. He overtook Button, and that's about the only fast car he took on the track. Given how lucky he was today, he is now surely going to win the championship.
So after all that blather, Vettel still.
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull need five points, so this is done and dusted.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
No.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
Bloody McLaren! I was looking good for a point in this category and then they go and break down. No points for anyone on this, as no one predicted he would win.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Boring. ...
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
Nothing doing here today, although Kovalainen was running 12th at one point, and finished 13th.
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
This category is over - Grosjean wins.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
Yawn - still nothing of any interest has happened.
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
This category is dead - both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Ten points in it with two races to go. I think it's safe to say this has been close all year.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Let's say yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
I was expecting something better here, and with Vettel demoted down the grid we ended up with an exciting race. And any race that includes Raikkonen telling his pit crew to essentially bugger off is worthy of extra attention. So with that in mind, I am judging this race to be the most exciting so far.
Most exciting: Abu Dhabi. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
You lot are STILL rubbish.
Team mate head to heads:
Drivers in bold cannot now be caught by their team mate.
Hamilton 10, Button 8 (Button can now only draw level with Hamilton)
Vettel 12, Webber 6
Alonso 16, Massa 2
Schumacher 10, Rosberg 8 (Rosberg can now only draw level with Schumacher)
Raikkonen 16, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 11, di Resta 6
Kobayashi 10, Perez 8 (Perez can now only draw level with Kobayashi)
Ricciardo 11, Vergne 7
Senna 11, Maldonaldo 7
Kovalainen 10, Petrov 8 (Petrov can now only draw level with Kovalainen)
Glock 13, Pic 5
de la Rosa 16, Karthikeyan 2
Next race: an unknown quantity, so maybe something with crop up that takes it down to the wire in Brazil.
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United States GP update.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Well, as much as Alonso keeps stringing it out, the odds are still stacked against him. He HAS to finish ahead of Vettel now, but the car is not good enough. Only the Brazilian weather can save him now.
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull win - game over.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
I think it's safe to say this one's a no.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
No points for anyone, because no one said first.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Boring. ...
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
Nothing doing at the back this time, so Marussia's 12th place in Singapore is keeping them ahead.
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
This category is over - Grosjean wins.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
Not even a team deliberately sabotaging one of its cars so the other can gain an advantage caused that much of a stir, as didn't Vettel's childish behaviour on the Abu Dhabi podium. It's been a surprisingly quiet year.
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
This category is dead - both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Close battle.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
This has to be a yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
It was a good race, but I don't think it was as "exciting" as Abu Dhabi. Near the top though.
Most exciting: Abu Dhabi. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
You lot are STILL rubbish.
Team mate head to heads:
Drivers in bold cannot now be caught by their team mate.
Hamilton 11, Button 8
Vettel 13, Webber 6
Alonso 17, Massa 2
Schumacher 10, Rosberg 9 (Rosberg can now only draw level with Schumacher)
Raikkonen 17, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 10, di Resta 9 (di Resta can now only draw level with Hulkenberg)
Kobayashi 10, Perez 9 (Perez can now only draw level with Kobayashi)
Ricciardo 12, Vergne 7
Senna 12, Maldonaldo 7
Kovalainen 10, Petrov 9 (Petrov can now only draw level with Kovalainen)
Glock 14, Pic 5
de la Rosa 17, Karthikeyan 2
See ya'll for the showdown in Brazil, and then we'll see who the winner of this pointless crap is.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Well, as much as Alonso keeps stringing it out, the odds are still stacked against him. He HAS to finish ahead of Vettel now, but the car is not good enough. Only the Brazilian weather can save him now.
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull win - game over.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
I think it's safe to say this one's a no.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
No points for anyone, because no one said first.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Boring. ...
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
Nothing doing at the back this time, so Marussia's 12th place in Singapore is keeping them ahead.
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
This category is over - Grosjean wins.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
Not even a team deliberately sabotaging one of its cars so the other can gain an advantage caused that much of a stir, as didn't Vettel's childish behaviour on the Abu Dhabi podium. It's been a surprisingly quiet year.
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
This category is dead - both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Close battle.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
This has to be a yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
It was a good race, but I don't think it was as "exciting" as Abu Dhabi. Near the top though.
Most exciting: Abu Dhabi. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
You lot are STILL rubbish.
Team mate head to heads:
Drivers in bold cannot now be caught by their team mate.
Hamilton 11, Button 8
Vettel 13, Webber 6
Alonso 17, Massa 2
Schumacher 10, Rosberg 9 (Rosberg can now only draw level with Schumacher)
Raikkonen 17, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 10, di Resta 9 (di Resta can now only draw level with Hulkenberg)
Kobayashi 10, Perez 9 (Perez can now only draw level with Kobayashi)
Ricciardo 12, Vergne 7
Senna 12, Maldonaldo 7
Kovalainen 10, Petrov 9 (Petrov can now only draw level with Kovalainen)
Glock 14, Pic 5
de la Rosa 17, Karthikeyan 2
See ya'll for the showdown in Brazil, and then we'll see who the winner of this pointless crap is.
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With regard to the controversy, I think going to Bahrain was most controversial; getting F1 onto the front pages and leading BBC News is impressive - even if they did take Sky Sports' coverage for the news!
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Yes, I've more or less decided that the Bahrain issue wins this.
Unless Raikkonen punches a marshal or something.
Unless Raikkonen punches a marshal or something.
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Brazilian GP update.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Vettel.
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
No.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
First.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Grosjean.
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
With rain affecting the lower orders, Caterham stormed to er, 11th place with Petrov. This makes Caterham the winners of this category.
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
Grosjean.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
As discussed briefly earlier, I think the Bahrain riots/protests have to rank highest, as literally nothing else of interest in this category happened.
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?[
None - they stay.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Close battle.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
Brazil was the most exciting race of the season, and that's final.
Most exciting: Brazil. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
I'll go into this in the overall results.
Team mate head to heads:
Hamilton 11, Button 9
Vettel 13, Webber 7
Alonso 18, Massa 2
Schumacher 11, Rosberg 9
Raikkonen 18, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 11, di Resta 9
Kobayashi 11, Perez 9
Ricciardo 12, Vergne 8
Senna 12, Maldonaldo 8 (they both retired in Brazil, but Maldonaldo lasted longer, so he takes the point)
Kovalainen 10, Petrov 10 - the only draw all season!
Glock 14, Pic 6
de la Rosa 18, Karthikeyan 2
The points will now be calculated, and we'll see who's won ...
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Vettel.
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Red Bull.
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
No.
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
First.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Grosjean.
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
With rain affecting the lower orders, Caterham stormed to er, 11th place with Petrov. This makes Caterham the winners of this category.
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
Grosjean.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
As discussed briefly earlier, I think the Bahrain riots/protests have to rank highest, as literally nothing else of interest in this category happened.
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?[
None - they stay.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Close battle.
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Yes.
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the season?
Brazil was the most exciting race of the season, and that's final.
Most exciting: Brazil. Most boring: Hungary.
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
I'll go into this in the overall results.
Team mate head to heads:
Hamilton 11, Button 9
Vettel 13, Webber 7
Alonso 18, Massa 2
Schumacher 11, Rosberg 9
Raikkonen 18, Grosjean 2, D'Ambrosio 0
Hulkenberg 11, di Resta 9
Kobayashi 11, Perez 9
Ricciardo 12, Vergne 8
Senna 12, Maldonaldo 8 (they both retired in Brazil, but Maldonaldo lasted longer, so he takes the point)
Kovalainen 10, Petrov 10 - the only draw all season!
Glock 14, Pic 6
de la Rosa 18, Karthikeyan 2
The points will now be calculated, and we'll see who's won ...
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AND THE FINAL SCORES!
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vettel - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Vettel - ONE POINT
Root - Vettel - ONE POINT
Sam - Vettel - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Vettel - ONE POINT
The Raven - Vettel - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Vettel - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Button - NO POINTS
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Root - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Sam - Red Bull - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Red Bull - ONE POINT
The Raven - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - McLaren - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
Steeeeeevoooooo - No - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Yes - NO POINTS
Root - No - ONE POINT
Sam - No - ONE POINT
scrxisi - No - ONE POINT
The Raven - No - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - No - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - No - ONE POINT
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
Steeeeeevoooooo - 3rd
Hopeless Traveller - 4th
Root - 3rd
Sam - 7th
scrxisi - 3rd
The Raven - 2nd
Greatkingrat - 2nd
Tubeguru - 2nd
No points all round here.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vergne - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Root - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Sam - Grosjean - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Vergne - NO POINTS
The Raven - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
Greatkingrat - Marussia - NO POINTS
Everyone else - Caterham - ONE POINT
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Karthikeyan
Hopeless Traveller - Karthikeyan
Root - Pic
Sam - No one
scrxisi - Karthikeyan
The Raven - de la Rosa
Greatkingrat - Vergne
Tubeguru - Karthikeyan
No points all round here.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Something relating to manipulation of gases for aerodynamic gain - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - The platypus noses - NO POINTS
Root - Going to Bahrain - ONE POINT
Sam - Hamilton and the Stewards (sounds like a band) - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Something to do with the McLaren/Red Bull exhausts - NO POINTS
The Raven - Kimi Raikkonen found drunk behind the wheel - NO POINTS
Greatkingrat - People moaning about F1 being on Sky - NO POINTS (I didn't really see much moaning)
Tubeguru - Red Bull moaning about McLaren's exhaust system at some point. Hopefully it'll turn into a punch up behind the bikesheds - NO POINTS
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
Steeeeeevoooooo - 19
Hopeless Traveller - 14
Root - 19
Sam - 17
scrxisi - 12
The Raven - 19
Greatkingrat - 16
Tubeguru - 14
No points all round here, as both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Steeeeeevoooooo - Close - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Close - ONE POINT
Root - Walkover - NO POINTS
Sam - Close - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Close - ONE POINT
The Raven - Close - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Close - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Close - ONE POINT
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Yes - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Yes - ONE POINT
Root - No - NO POINTS
Sam - No - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Yes - ONE POINT
The Raven - Yes - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Yes - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Yes, just - ONE POINT
Who will be leading the Driver's Championship after the German GP (the halfway point of the season)?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Webber - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Alonso - ONE POINT
Root - Vettel - NO POINTS
Sam - Button - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Vettel - NO POINTS
The Raven - Alonso - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Vettel - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - Vettel - NO POINTS
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the year?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Exciting: Canada, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Exciting: Monaco, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Root - Exciting: Canada, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Sam - Exciting: Britain, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Exciting: Belgium, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
The Raven - Exciting: Japan, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Greatkingrat - Exciting: Britain, Boring: Bahrain - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - Exciting: Belgium, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Wow, that was pretty rubbish wasn't it?
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
Steeeeeevoooooo - There will be a protest/invader during the Bahrain GP - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Koboyashi to be DSQ the most times - NO POINTS
Root - Pastor Maldonado will have a problem with his sponsorship money at some point, leading to him being replaced for at least one race - NO POINTS
Sam - Red Bull will win the Constructor's Championship before the Driver's Championship is decided - ONE POINT
scrxisi - The safety car will crash at some stage this season and we'll all laugh/be concerned - NO POINTS
The Raven - Mad man on track - NO POINTS
Greatkingrat - At least one of the 20 scheduled races will not take place - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - At least one race will start under the safety car - NO POINTS
Sam wins a point for the championship prediction.
Team mate head to heads:
You may remember that Root pointed out that I had somehow changed the scoring criteria for this category. Originally, it was who finished higher in the championship. Then it turned into who had finished ahead of each other in each race. So, as you all chose who you thought would finish ahead in the championship, I'll do the scores for BOTH things.
So, championship position first:
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 5 POINTS
Root - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
Sam - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
scrxisi - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
The Raven - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg, Koboyashi, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Greatkingrat - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
Tubeguru - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 6 POINTS
In case anyone is interested, of the drivers who didn't score any points this season, their finishing position was determined by their highest finishing positions all season. So Petrov's 11th place in Brazil puts him ahead of Kovalainen. Timo Glock and Charles Pic both scored a 12th place, but Glock's next best was 14th, while Pic's was 15th. Karthikeyan scored a 15th place finish in Monaco, while de la Rosa's best finish was 17th, which he achieved four times. So the winners of the non-points scorers are PETROV, GLOCK AND KARTHIKEYAN.
And then by who finished ahead of whom the most times:
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 5 POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Root - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Sam - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
scrxisi - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
The Raven - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg, Koboyashi, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Greatkingrat - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
Tubeguru - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Kovalainen and Petrov both had 10 higher finishes, so to make it fair points are not scored for either driver.
And so, after all that, the final scores are in.
Using the "highest finisher in the championship" scoring system, the total scores are:
1 - The Raven - 16
2 - steeevooo - 15
3 - Sam - 14
= - scrxisi- 14
5 - Root - 13
6 - Hopeless Traveller - 12
= - Greatkingrat - 12
= - Root - 12
= - Tubeguru - 12
And using the other system, we get:
1 - The Raven - 16
2 - Hopeless Traveller - 15
3 - Root - 14
= - Sam - 14
= - scrxisi - 14
= - steevooo - 14
=- Tubeguru - 14
8 - Greatkingrat - 12
= - steeevooo - 12
I daresay some saddo will go through all of this and find a mistake, but I don't care - these are the scores and that's that. Congratulations to The Raven, who wins whichever system we use.
I'm sure I'll do another version of this next year. Hope you enjoyed it.
Who will win the Driver's Championship?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vettel - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Vettel - ONE POINT
Root - Vettel - ONE POINT
Sam - Vettel - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Vettel - ONE POINT
The Raven - Vettel - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Vettel - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Button - NO POINTS
Who will win the Constructor's Championship?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Root - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Sam - Red Bull - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Red Bull - ONE POINT
The Raven - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - McLaren - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - Red Bull - ONE POINT
Will Michael Schumacher win a GP?
Steeeeeevoooooo - No - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Yes - NO POINTS
Root - No - ONE POINT
Sam - No - ONE POINT
scrxisi - No - ONE POINT
The Raven - No - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - No - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - No - ONE POINT
What will Kimi Raikkonen's highest finishing position be?
Steeeeeevoooooo - 3rd
Hopeless Traveller - 4th
Root - 3rd
Sam - 7th
scrxisi - 3rd
The Raven - 2nd
Greatkingrat - 2nd
Tubeguru - 2nd
No points all round here.
Who will be top rookie? This year's rookies are Charles Pic, Jean-Eric Vergne and Romain Grosjean.
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vergne - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Root - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Sam - Grosjean - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Vergne - NO POINTS
The Raven - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Grosjean - ONE POINT
Which of the three "new" teams will finish highest in the Constructor's Championship? If none of these teams scores points, the most successful will be the team with the highest finishing position. The teams in question are the three newest teams in F1: Caterham, HRT and Marussia.
Greatkingrat - Marussia - NO POINTS
Everyone else - Caterham - ONE POINT
Which driver will be the first to be replaced this season for any reason?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Karthikeyan
Hopeless Traveller - Karthikeyan
Root - Pic
Sam - No one
scrxisi - Karthikeyan
The Raven - de la Rosa
Greatkingrat - Vergne
Tubeguru - Karthikeyan
No points all round here.
What will be the year's biggest row (technical/personal/whatever - your choice)?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Something relating to manipulation of gases for aerodynamic gain - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - The platypus noses - NO POINTS
Root - Going to Bahrain - ONE POINT
Sam - Hamilton and the Stewards (sounds like a band) - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Something to do with the McLaren/Red Bull exhausts - NO POINTS
The Raven - Kimi Raikkonen found drunk behind the wheel - NO POINTS
Greatkingrat - People moaning about F1 being on Sky - NO POINTS (I didn't really see much moaning)
Tubeguru - Red Bull moaning about McLaren's exhaust system at some point. Hopefully it'll turn into a punch up behind the bikesheds - NO POINTS
How many races will take place before Red Bull and/or Ferrari announce that they're dropping Mark Webber and/or Felipe Massa respectively for 2013?
Steeeeeevoooooo - 19
Hopeless Traveller - 14
Root - 19
Sam - 17
scrxisi - 12
The Raven - 19
Greatkingrat - 16
Tubeguru - 14
No points all round here, as both stay for next year.
Driver's Championship: walkover or close battle? I will determine whether a "walkover" or "close battle" was achieved at the end of the season.
Steeeeeevoooooo - Close - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Close - ONE POINT
Root - Walkover - NO POINTS
Sam - Close - ONE POINT
scrxisi - Close - ONE POINT
The Raven - Close - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Close - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Close - ONE POINT
Will all the teams complete the season (i.e. field two cars at all 20 GPs)?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Yes - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Yes - ONE POINT
Root - No - NO POINTS
Sam - No - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Yes - ONE POINT
The Raven - Yes - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Yes - ONE POINT
Tubeguru - Yes, just - ONE POINT
Who will be leading the Driver's Championship after the German GP (the halfway point of the season)?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Webber - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Alonso - ONE POINT
Root - Vettel - NO POINTS
Sam - Button - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Vettel - NO POINTS
The Raven - Alonso - ONE POINT
Greatkingrat - Vettel - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - Vettel - NO POINTS
What will be the most exciting and boring races of the year?
Steeeeeevoooooo - Exciting: Canada, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Exciting: Monaco, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Root - Exciting: Canada, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Sam - Exciting: Britain, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
scrxisi - Exciting: Belgium, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
The Raven - Exciting: Japan, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Greatkingrat - Exciting: Britain, Boring: Bahrain - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - Exciting: Belgium, Boring: Valencia - NO POINTS
Wow, that was pretty rubbish wasn't it?
Your own prediction that is not covered by anything above. Take a shot at something that will or won't happen this year that isn't covered by the previous 13 questions and see if you strike it lucky!
Steeeeeevoooooo - There will be a protest/invader during the Bahrain GP - ONE POINT
Hopeless Traveller - Koboyashi to be DSQ the most times - NO POINTS
Root - Pastor Maldonado will have a problem with his sponsorship money at some point, leading to him being replaced for at least one race - NO POINTS
Sam - Red Bull will win the Constructor's Championship before the Driver's Championship is decided - ONE POINT
scrxisi - The safety car will crash at some stage this season and we'll all laugh/be concerned - NO POINTS
The Raven - Mad man on track - NO POINTS
Greatkingrat - At least one of the 20 scheduled races will not take place - NO POINTS
Tubeguru - At least one race will start under the safety car - NO POINTS
Sam wins a point for the championship prediction.
Team mate head to heads:
You may remember that Root pointed out that I had somehow changed the scoring criteria for this category. Originally, it was who finished higher in the championship. Then it turned into who had finished ahead of each other in each race. So, as you all chose who you thought would finish ahead in the championship, I'll do the scores for BOTH things.
So, championship position first:
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 5 POINTS
Root - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
Sam - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
scrxisi - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
The Raven - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg, Koboyashi, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Greatkingrat - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
Tubeguru - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 6 POINTS
In case anyone is interested, of the drivers who didn't score any points this season, their finishing position was determined by their highest finishing positions all season. So Petrov's 11th place in Brazil puts him ahead of Kovalainen. Timo Glock and Charles Pic both scored a 12th place, but Glock's next best was 14th, while Pic's was 15th. Karthikeyan scored a 15th place finish in Monaco, while de la Rosa's best finish was 17th, which he achieved four times. So the winners of the non-points scorers are PETROV, GLOCK AND KARTHIKEYAN.
And then by who finished ahead of whom the most times:
Steeeeeevoooooo - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 5 POINTS
Hopeless Traveller - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Root - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Kovalainen, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Sam - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Vergne, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
scrxisi - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, di Resta, Koboyashi, Ricciardo, Maldonaldo, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
The Raven - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg, Koboyashi, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Greatkingrat - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Vergne, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 7 POINTS
Tubeguru - Vettel, Button, Alonso, Schumacher, Raikkonen, di Resta, Perez, Ricciardo, Senna, Petrov, de la Rosa, Glock - 8 POINTS
Kovalainen and Petrov both had 10 higher finishes, so to make it fair points are not scored for either driver.
And so, after all that, the final scores are in.
Using the "highest finisher in the championship" scoring system, the total scores are:
1 - The Raven - 16
2 - steeevooo - 15
3 - Sam - 14
= - scrxisi- 14
5 - Root - 13
6 - Hopeless Traveller - 12
= - Greatkingrat - 12
= - Root - 12
= - Tubeguru - 12
And using the other system, we get:
1 - The Raven - 16
2 - Hopeless Traveller - 15
3 - Root - 14
= - Sam - 14
= - scrxisi - 14
= - steevooo - 14
=- Tubeguru - 14
8 - Greatkingrat - 12
= - steeevooo - 12
I daresay some saddo will go through all of this and find a mistake, but I don't care - these are the scores and that's that. Congratulations to The Raven, who wins whichever system we use.
I'm sure I'll do another version of this next year. Hope you enjoyed it.
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I did! Thanks for running ittubeguru wrote:I'm sure I'll do another version of this next year. Hope you enjoyed it.
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Me too! I enjoyed it.
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Ta. I'll try to get rid of the more objective ones for next year (most exciting/boring race for example will be ditched).
Watch this space, but not until the driver line-ups are finalised for next year.
Watch this space, but not until the driver line-ups are finalised for next year.
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I want to be pedantic here. I demand a point for the "your own prediction" one as Kobayashi was DSQed the most times - 0. No one got DSQed all year/
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