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National Rail challenge?

Post by zeibura » 20 Jul 2006, 12:19

anyone thought about doing a challenge visiting every National Rail station within zones 1 and 6? where you can use london underground to get between stations obviously. would it be possible?
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Post by standclearofthedoors » 20 Jul 2006, 12:33

I was thinking of doing all LU & NR stations 1-3 & I doubt the success chances of that. A lot of services are too infrequent. Maybe everything South of the river would be a decent challenge, as services are generally more frequent there.
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Post by jonny » 20 Jul 2006, 15:19

I think I suggested the whole NR system on the TfL map a few months ago but it would take aaages.

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Post by greatkingrat » 20 Jul 2006, 17:48

I reckon that even 48 hours might not be enough. There are two stations only open in the peaks, two more lines with only a hourly frequency and at least 20 lines with only a half hourly frequency.

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Post by zeibura » 21 Jul 2006, 12:29

what's the other hourly frequency you speak of? i know chelsfield and knockholt only get one an hour, and the sudbury's only open at peak times (yes, that would be a bastard).

i didn't mean all LUL AND NR though, just the NR. when you consider how few there are north of the river it doesn't seem toooo bad...
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Post by greatkingrat » 21 Jul 2006, 18:01

The other hourly frequency service is the Epsom Downs line. Actually Sudbury Hill Harrow is now open all day, the two peak-only stations are Sudbury & Harrow Road and Angel Road.

The other problem with National Rail is that even lines with good services in the day get a crap service in the evening while LU lines keep up a good frequency right up until closedown.

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Post by Root » 22 Jul 2006, 11:18

This would, indeed, be far too much for one day.

I have a novel alternative though: Zone 1 National Rail. Yes, you'd have to arrive or depart using NR from every terminus in Zone 1, plus the Thameslink "thru"-line. Some of them are easy, some of them involve going non-stop to Harrow-On-The-Hill or Wembley...
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Post by greatkingrat » 22 Jul 2006, 11:42

St Pancras might be a problem - first stop Luton. I guess you would have to finish there and stop the clock when the doors close. If you count Waterloo International as a seperate stations then you're really stuffed!

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Post by Root » 22 Jul 2006, 11:57

Hmm, I overlooked St. Pancras being separate to King's Cross.

Going by the rules, the clock would only stop when you get to Luton - I'd be tempted to start there.

I don't think Waterloo International need be separate from Waterloo, though - that would be a bit extreme.
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Post by Starkey7 » 22 Jul 2006, 22:19

No, even Waterloo International would be okay. Just get on a service that stops at Ashford. Although it'll only stop there "to pick up", they won't notice if you nip off there...

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Post by PFW » 23 Jul 2006, 16:07

Has anybody tried to work out how long a full National Rail challenge would take (ie, all NR stations in UK)?

I guess it could be a number of weeks, but how many?

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Post by joy54 » 23 Jul 2006, 16:55

There are some services on National Rail that are ONCE A WEEK- Stockport to Stalybridge with Denton and Redditch South having only this service. I'd leave at least 3 weeks.

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Post by greatkingrat » 23 Jul 2006, 17:06

It has been done! From the 1994 Guinness Book.

Alan M Witton of Chorlton, Manchester visited every open British Rail station (2362) in a continuous tour for charity of 26,703 km (16,593 miles) in 452 hr 26.5min from 13 Jul - 28 Aug 1980.

Colin M Mulvany and Seth N Vafiadis of west London visited every open British Rail station (2378) embracing also the Tyne & Wear, Glasgow and London underground systems (333 stations) for charity in 31 days 5hr 8min 58sec. THey travelled over 24,989 km (15,528 miles) to average 61.2 km/h (38.1 mph) from 4 Jun - 5 Jul 1984.

I am slightly confused about the time in the first record. 452 hours is about 19 days which is not consistent with the dates given.

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Post by gasman » 23 Jul 2006, 17:42

greatkingrat wrote:Colin M Mulvany and Seth N Vafiadis of west London
Any relation to Colm Mulvaney I wonder?


(oh, and TC, you might want to fix your <a name="..."> tags... they shouldn't include the # symbol)

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Post by tubeguru » 24 Jul 2006, 08:26

Must be the same guy, but they misspelt his name.

It should be Colm.
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