Suprise First 268 Attempt?

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Post by Going Underground » 31 Dec 2007, 13:30

sven945 wrote:Congratulations to you lot! You had a few problems, but it seems like you had many fewer than the CiN day!

Next midweek attempt make it a Monday or a Wednesday and I'll definitely be joining you for much of the day.
We will hold you to that Jack as we are running out of stopwatch starters and stoppers :shock:
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Post by joy54 » 31 Dec 2007, 13:52

ping pon wrote:I think the worst day to do an attempt on is on a friday as after about 7pm the sytem goes into meltdown
My attempt was actually on Friday and the system held up remarkably well in the evening with some very smooth changes, but that was over 3 years ago...

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Post by palkanetoijala31 » 31 Dec 2007, 17:56

I dont mind starting the stopwatch for anybody on a future attempt as long as they give me advance warning beforehand andi.

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Post by nozzacook » 01 Jan 2008, 11:06

Well done SD & team and good of you to set a decent Bench mark and what should be comfirmed as the new world record for us all to beat.

Again Well Done
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Post by tpfkar » 01 Jan 2008, 12:01

Many congratulations guys, sounds like a great day, and that is a very competitive time to aim for. That extra hour you must get in bed now might even tempt me out of retirement!

Well done, the early bird sometimes does catch the worm!

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Post by Soup Dragon » 01 Jan 2008, 22:44

scrxisi wrote:I'd always be willing to do some support work on an attempt for anyone, with reasonable warning (about a month would be neccessary for work) and possibly a bit of help in getting up to/back from the middle-of-nowhere, if work would allow.

I've made a New Year's resolutio to break a World Record in 2008 - or at least have a damn good go. Guess which one I'm favouring :)
Most Jelly eaten with chopsticks in 1 minute? :o
Most Needles in the head? :shock:
Largest Scorpian held in the mouth? :twisted:
Most Snails on the face? :?

I give up... which one are you having a go at? There are so many to choose.

p.s. without cheating, anyone care to guess what the records are in these categories?
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Post by Starkey7 » 01 Jan 2008, 23:16

They're such toilet records. They don't need skill, planning or endurance, just stupidity and too much time on one's hands.

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Post by gasman » 02 Jan 2008, 10:10

Soup Dragon wrote:The driver then announced that due to a one-under on the Edgware branch his train was being diverted to terminate at Archway. This saved us a lot of messing around at Camden Town and probably saved us a couple of minutes
Hmph, that's the last time I volunteer to be on the support team for one of your attempts...

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Post by Soup Dragon » 02 Jan 2008, 21:07

Starkey7 wrote:They're such toilet records. They don't need skill, planning or endurance, just stupidity and too much time on one's hands.

Whereas Tube Challenging only requires stupidity and too much time on one's hands. :)
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Post by sven945 » 02 Jan 2008, 23:31

The earliest that you can get to Amersham from Baker Street is 0620 (setting off at 0520), according to TFL. I suppose it could be theoretically possible, but if I was doing it then I'd probably prefer starting on the first train in case things went wrong during the day, allowing you even more scope to definitely finish.
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Post by nozzacook » 02 Jan 2008, 23:36

I have already looked at starting later and for some strange timetable reason you take 7 mins longer over the first part of the route.

And starting earlier you are able to travel back to central london at the end.

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Post by Soup Dragon » 03 Jan 2008, 07:22

With the Amersham start unfortunately the first train appears to be best, this is because later services to Chesham operate as a shuttle service and you end up wasting time changing twice at Chalfont & Latimer.
What's to say Amersham is the best starting point though?
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Post by hwolge » 03 Jan 2008, 09:23

Soup Dragon wrote:What's to say Amersham is the best starting point though?
Well, both computer software and human experience have shown that Amersham should be start or finish - probably simply because it's too expensive to go out there and back (even though Keith Lowe argues differently in "Tunnel Vision").

However, an Amersham finish is quite concievable, provided you have a set goal for your time and not trying to minimise it. One of Geoff's TV appearences illustrates this brutally - it's half an hour between the finishing opprtunities. But if you select your start with this in mind - I don't see any good reason why it wouldn't work with an Amersham finish. I looked into doing our record route backwards, but couldn't fit Shoreditch in properly... It's so much easier now!
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Post by jbom1 » 03 Jan 2008, 10:12

Agreed. Of course, "provided you have a set goal for your time and not trying to minimise it" is a major limitation. It seems obvious that it will be best to start with one of the lowest frequency services, if possible, with a zero wait. After 18 hours or so, the wait for the last train might be a random variable with a mean that's about half the service interval (under various assumptions, including that the preceding train is much higher frequency).

I had a 25 minute wait for the penultimate connection on my London Boroughs Challenge (missing one by a few seconds).

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Re: Suprise First 268 Attempt?

Post by Soup Dragon » 22 Apr 2020, 14:58

Having a bit of a Lockdown clearout and I've come across our full Journey Log for this attempt on 29/12/2007.

We started at Amersham at 05:28:12 and finished at Heathrow T123 at 22:59:03, giving us a time of 17h30m51s.

It still annoys me a great deal that GWR refused to confirm this as the world record. The reasons they gave were as follows....

1) That not all stations are open on the weekend.... WRONG, all stations were open, so it was a valid attempt.
2) An attempt on a Saturday is not valid..... WRONG, they had already given us authority to attempt if all stations were open.
3) It would be unfair to the current holders if they allowed us the record.... WRONG, we were the current holders.

Had the attempt been validated it would have resulted in three consecutive record attempts.
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