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Out of interest, how many people use Regent's Park-Great Portland Street in their all stations route? I spent ages trying to work it into a viable scenario before our second attempt but always found it to be more trouble than it's worth!
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I'm sure it can be used viably, but I'd rather not bother with any un-necessary running!

What I found most remarkable about this attempt was the starting time.

As we all know, the Amersham train is scheduled to leave at 0528. We left at 0528 and 5 seconds, and then Sam & Steve beat the record by exactly that amount! So if it had left early or even on time, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Well done indeed, I feel proud to have been part of this, even if it makes my attempt that slight bit more difficult. Sorry for the couple of occasions when I didn't fulfill my point-man duty, I hope there are no hard feelings for that!
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When we started in Amersham the doors closed 05:28:29. These 29 seconds COULD definitly have made a difference at the finish. There was the definite possibility that would arrive on the T4 replacement bus scheduled at 0:04. Make out the math and you see the 29 seconds could have made all the difference!
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I think this highlights the difference between starting when the doors close and starting when the train leaves - which could be more than five seconds...
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CrunchySaviour wrote:I think this highlights the difference between starting when the doors close and starting when the train leaves - which could be more than five seconds...
True, but the rules are quite clear on the matter:
The clock must start the moment the doors close on the first train taken by the challengers.

It must stop the moment the challengers set foot on the platform at the last station.
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A Big Congrats to all involved and its great to see the benchmark moved and proves the point every second counts again well done.
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I think I'll definitely be holding the doors on that Amersham train for a few seconds when I do my challenge...
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Cheat :-)
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Why is holding the first door any more cheating than holding any door?
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True, but in the instance of the very first train, you're stopping the doors closing to gain an "unfair" advantage.

Holding doors DURING the challenge is not so bad, as you are only delaying yourself, as the clock has already started.
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I disagree.

If I don't hold the doors on the first train of the day, I may be losing ten seconds. But say you reach the doors of an Olympia shuttle and your team-mate is a few seconds behind you - if you don't hold those, you'll be fifteen or more minutes behind automatically. So holding the doors then is more advantageous than holding them at Amersham.
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As I said, with the Olympia train, you're losing yourself 10 seconds waiting for your teammate.

That's 10 seconds on to the overall time which would not have been added had you arrived before the doors started closing.
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Even so, you'd be saving 14 minutes and 50 seconds by holding them. Obviously, ideally you wouldn't hold them at all, but after you have arrived there late you're still saving time by holding them.

So you seriously think it's be against GWR rules to hold the first doors of the day?
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It's not against the rules.

But it could be considered to be against the spirit of the rules.
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Post by petermiller36 »

i believe ive discussed this with your team mate Neil. He seemed to indicate that the occasional miss placed foot in the doors of the first train is an easy mistake to make.
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