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Bustitution

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 10:19
by Senji
Something I can't find anywhere are any concrete details for the Piccadilly Bustitution services "A" and "B" beyond which tube stations they serve (which makes planning a bit awkward)

Of course, if the Piccadilly reopens then that'll be moot; and I'll need a different route alltogether...

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 11:36
by tubeguru
What do you need to know exactly?

Surely you'd just take either Bus A between Arnos Grove and Finchley Central, or Bus B between Bounds Green and Seven Sisters (or the reverse) ...

I don't think either of them calls at opened tube stations in between. The LU site has this:

Service A: between Arnos Grove and Finchley Central.
Service B: between Bounds Green and Seven Sisters, calling at Wood Green and Turnpike Lane

What else do you need to know?

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 11:40
by Senji
Vague ideas of how long they take, how often they run, and when the last one runs might be helpful :-) (although I'm growing to think that getting the spur end of the Picc done fairly early on might be a Plan).

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 12:47
by tubeguru
If all goes according to plan, myself and Geoff aim to be there between 12 and 1pm.

Should be alright at that time of day.

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 12:53
by Nutteronabus
Our route reckons that the Picadilly will be re-opened in time.

We're looking into amending it so we've got a back-up should this bold bit of planning go wrong, but we'll probably be doing the High Barnet-Cockfosters connection around 10pm.

Stupid? Probably.

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 15:15
by James_#510
Nutteronabus wrote:Our route reckons that the Picadilly will be re-opened in time.

We're looking into amending it so we've got a back-up should this bold bit of planning go wrong, but we'll probably be doing the High Barnet-Cockfosters connection around 10pm.

Stupid? Probably.
Well if it is stupid then at least your not alone. Our route wants us up near Cockfosters at about 10pm too!

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 15:52
by Nutteronabus
James_#510 wrote:
Nutteronabus wrote:Our route reckons that the Picadilly will be re-opened in time.

We're looking into amending it so we've got a back-up should this bold bit of planning go wrong, but we'll probably be doing the High Barnet-Cockfosters connection around 10pm.

Stupid? Probably.
Well if it is stupid then at least your not alone. Our route wants us up near Cockfosters at about 10pm too!
Whey!

We can cross an incredibly busy road and get run over together in complete darkness!

Sounds fun :D

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 16:38
by tubeguru
Well, should the Piccadilly be back on then we're going to use Tube 8 (the one we did back in February).

Otherwise, I have planned an alternative middle section to link up the missing bits in quite an elegant manner even if I do say so myself :-)

Cockfosters/Arnos Grove on Tube 8 happens just before we need to get between Kings Cross and Hyde Park Corner on the Piccadilly line. We've always got to Cockfosters between 12 and 12.30pm on our attempts anyway so that's what I'm expecting this time too.

Although we do MHE before Cockfosters so God knows what that's going to be like ...

OK, that's enough route giving-away :-)

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 16:44
by Senji
Assuming the route I'm trying out at the moment works out I'll be passing through Cockfosters at about 2pm. But again, MHE beforehand....

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 17:08
by Senji
...except that that route only works if I can travel backwards in time along the Jubilee line. Hmm...


... this route planning jobbie is difficult...

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 19:40
by G Force
I'm back!

It should be remembered that TfLs website has a lot of bus spider maps for planning routes around the Piccadilly closure, and between termini. It can be accessed from http://www.thetube.com

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 22:27
by James_#510
Nutteronabus wrote:
James_#510 wrote:
Nutteronabus wrote:Our route reckons that the Picadilly will be re-opened in time.

We're looking into amending it so we've got a back-up should this bold bit of planning go wrong, but we'll probably be doing the High Barnet-Cockfosters connection around 10pm.

Stupid? Probably.
Well if it is stupid then at least your not alone. Our route wants us up near Cockfosters at about 10pm too!
Whey!

We can cross an incredibly busy road and get run over together in complete darkness!

Sounds fun :D
Which way do you do the buses? CF-HB/HB-CF?

Also can I suggest visiting a motorcycle suppliers for reflective armbands or something if you're gonna be crossing roads at that sort of time? (Wouldn't look any dumber than a tube map t-shirt anyway!)

Posted: 01 Aug 2005, 22:32
by Nutteronabus
Actually, upon thinking about it, we'll be doing it HB-CF, meaning we won't need to cross busy roads.

Though the reflective armbands might be an idea anyway, just for added sex appeal..

Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 11:31
by tubeguru
Chris - don't think I'm criticising your route, but is it wise to be up at Cockfosters and at the mercy of replacement bus services at 10pm?

Maybe it's because I'm used to being there within 4 hours of coming down from Harrow and Wealdstone.

Posted: 02 Aug 2005, 11:44
by Senji
Typically, of course, JourneyPlanner now has the replacement bus services; just as we start to think they might be back to normal by the day...