Recommended reading?
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Recommended reading?
Hiya!
Could anyone help me create a list of "recommended reads" relating to the planning of a 274 Challenge?
I already have a copy of the A-Z and also the Way Out Map - which other maps/publications would you suggest?
I've heard "The Clever Tube Hopper" bandied about... but what exactly is it!?
Any other suggestions please?
Cheers!
Could anyone help me create a list of "recommended reads" relating to the planning of a 274 Challenge?
I already have a copy of the A-Z and also the Way Out Map - which other maps/publications would you suggest?
I've heard "The Clever Tube Hopper" bandied about... but what exactly is it!?
Any other suggestions please?
Cheers!
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This forum reminds me of the old "whatever did they do in the old days" debates.
When Geoff and I planned our world record run we didn't have this forum to ask questions on. We had to go and find everything out ourselves.
It all seems so easy these days ...
When Geoff and I planned our world record run we didn't have this forum to ask questions on. We had to go and find everything out ourselves.
It all seems so easy these days ...
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Clever Tube Hopper not in print anymore. You have to use the Way Out Map (complete with all its mistakes).
Of course, in the old days, my father use to wake us up half an hour before we went to bed, make us eat a bucket of gravel, thrash us to an inch away from death, AND make us go out and work out the door/carriage positions all by ourselves.
But try telling that to the kids nowadays....
Of course, in the old days, my father use to wake us up half an hour before we went to bed, make us eat a bucket of gravel, thrash us to an inch away from death, AND make us go out and work out the door/carriage positions all by ourselves.
But try telling that to the kids nowadays....
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They don't seem to be getting it, do they?geofftech wrote:Clever Tube Hopper not in print anymore. You have to use the Way Out Map (complete with all its mistakes).
Of course, in the old days, my father use to wake us up half an hour before we went to bed, make us eat a bucket of gravel, thrash us to an inch away from death, AND make us go out and work out the door/carriage positions all by ourselves.
But try telling that to the kids nowadays....
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I ordered a Clever Tube Hopper and a Way Out Map from Amazon about 6 weeks ago. The Way Out Map took about 5 weeks, the CTH has been delayed, should be another 4 to 6 weeks. However I have found in the past this actually means that someone will look after my money for about 3 or 4 months until they cant source it at all. Watch this space!
Apart from that I normally find going out and trying out routes to be the best way, its the only real way to find out which door to use etc.
Apart from that I normally find going out and trying out routes to be the best way, its the only real way to find out which door to use etc.
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Google Earth's one option for looking up runs. Another resource is obviously the London A-Z, but even better than that (albeit a bit more expensive) is the Greater London A-Z on CD-ROM - goes out to the M25 and a bit beyond in certain places, and you can quickly and easily plot routes to work out distances of on-foot connections and stuff. It's £34.99 including VAT, possibly plus a bit for postage, and it's here:
http://www.a-zmaps.co.uk/asp/details.as ... stpostage=
Tell them I sent you.
They'll probably say "Who?"
Also, I find the Spider maps excellent for bus routes - I painstakingly compiled them all into a 90MB zip file which I reckon is quite handy. http://www.busmap.org is also brilliant for timetable information (and worth using in conjunction with the spider maps, which IMHO are much more user-friendly than the maps on there).
Also, the "realistic geographic" map is great as a quick guide for which walks are easy to do. Geoff did have it on his "sillymaps" page on his site but big bad evil people forced him to take it down, but I'm sure if you ask nicely he'll tell you where a mirror of that page can be found.
And yes, the way out map is good too. As is knowledge of where the cross-platform interchanges are.
http://www.a-zmaps.co.uk/asp/details.as ... stpostage=
Tell them I sent you.
They'll probably say "Who?"
Also, I find the Spider maps excellent for bus routes - I painstakingly compiled them all into a 90MB zip file which I reckon is quite handy. http://www.busmap.org is also brilliant for timetable information (and worth using in conjunction with the spider maps, which IMHO are much more user-friendly than the maps on there).
Also, the "realistic geographic" map is great as a quick guide for which walks are easy to do. Geoff did have it on his "sillymaps" page on his site but big bad evil people forced him to take it down, but I'm sure if you ask nicely he'll tell you where a mirror of that page can be found.
And yes, the way out map is good too. As is knowledge of where the cross-platform interchanges are.
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There is no substitute for experience my friends.
Go out there and actually walk it in both directions first to get it in your head. No need for maps on the day if you do that.
Go out there and actually walk it in both directions first to get it in your head. No need for maps on the day if you do that.
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