Page 1 of 1

"ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 18:22
by lellama
Does anyone know if the trains marked as "ETY" were available to passengers and just not in passenger timetables, or if they are just available for staff. If they carry passengers, would it count as a 'scheduled service' as stated in the official rules?. The explanation in the WTT key is a bit vague.
Thanks

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 18:30
by moley
What part of the description is not clear?
Empty train, may convey Train Operators and Detrainment Staff.
:roll:

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 21:03
by RJSRdg
But... can they carry off-duty LU staff if they have their passes with them? That could give certain Forum members a distinct advantage ;-)

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 21:30
by dstock17
RJSRdg wrote:But... can they carry off-duty LU staff if they have their passes with them? That could give certain Forum members a distinct advantage ;-)
in theory I suppose someone who could get access into Lille bridge depot would have a distinct advantage in the full network challenge as they be able to arrive into Ken o early morning.

not that I would ever attempt the full network myself.

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 00:47
by Iain
I believe there's also some from Earl's Court to Ken O in the evening which could be very useful if permitted - can't think why they'd want them empty though. Out of curiosity, any ideas?

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 02:01
by The Orange One
lellama wrote:If they carry passengers, would it count as a 'scheduled service' as stated in the official rules?
No, it's scheduled public transport. If the public can't use it, it wouldn't count.
RJSRdg wrote:But... can they carry off-duty LU staff if they have their passes with them? That could give certain Forum members a distinct advantage ;-)
Maybe empty trains don't count, but being able to ride in the cab of the train gives you an improved door position at certain stations...

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 12:44
by greatkingrat
Iain wrote:I believe there's also some from Earl's Court to Ken O in the evening which could be very useful if permitted - can't think why they'd want them empty though. Out of curiosity, any ideas?
The simple answer is there are no LU staff at Olympia to help empty out the trains, so it is easier to run them out of service from HSK.

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 13:43
by Iain
Ah I see, thanks. So would the doors not open at Earl's Court?

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 23:52
by greatkingrat
From the WTT it looks like the trains go out of service at High Street Ken. I guess they don't want to block the platform at Earls Court while they empty out the train.

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 09:45
by stepneygreen05
Would travelling in on an out-of-service train still count as completing the station though? That is the question.

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 10:01
by Steeevooo
Given that "out-of-service" means "out of passenger service" then no, it would not count, since you should not be on the train in the first place.

Re: "ETY" trains in WTT?

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 13:11
by Golf
if the case was you could if u were a tfl employee you could seriously jump out at west kensington other side of the exit use the electronic gate to gain access to lille bridge depot and get on empty train into kensington olympia. that be so much easier run wise.