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Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 10:06
by Tube Geek
I have often heard people say 'start at Amersham, not Chesham' and have often wondered why. I was also wondering if any of you could help! I think Chesham is better, as it is a longer gap between Chalfont than Amersham, meaning it is quicker to double-back at Amersham rather than Chesham. Let me know if you disagree!

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 10:27
by The Orange One
It depends on the timetables!! Chesham is every 30 minutes, Amersham isn't much better (only because Chiltern comes into play)...

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:02
by Iain
You're right - with the 8 minute double back plus a wait to reverse at Chesham, it's usually slower, but occasionally it works. As you get Chilterns coming through at Amersham, and there's a reversing siding, the wait at Amersham may be shorter.

There's at least one other option for a NW start that's been used as part of a route before now

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:25
by Steeevooo
As for helping - why not play with the timetables and see what works for you?!

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:34
by Tube Geek
Iain - what is that other option? Because I can't see Watford being a good start unless you manage to go round the North Curve. Or is that it? Watford to Chesham/Amersham via North Curve.

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:41
by The Orange One
Nope, not Watford!! But I'll leave it to you to work out...

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:45
by Steeevooo
Tube Geek wrote:Iain - what is that other option? Because I can't see Watford being a good start unless you manage to go round the North Curve. Or is that it? Watford to Chesham/Amersham via North Curve.
Why do people need to be spoon fed these days?

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:48
by Tube Geek
Uxbridge?

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:49
by Steeevooo
Work it out for yourself, like the rest of us had to do!

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 11:57
by Tube Geek
Give me one clue: When was the attempt made with that route. If I know that, I can work it out myself

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 12:00
by Steeevooo
What, by looking it up on here? None of us were given any clues or hints, we had to sit down and work it out the hard way with a tube map and pen and umpteen references to timetables.

For what it's worth, the attempt was made at some point between 1 January 2003 and 1 April 2016.

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 12:23
by Tube Geek
Start at Chesham finish at Amersham? I'm not just guessing - I found it here - http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=704133

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 12:31
by Iain
As Steveo says, play with it :)

A start that works well one year may not work as well after a timetable change, but they're worth knowing

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 12:42
by Tube Geek
I do have a route (Chesham - Upminster), but started this topic to see is Amersham - Upminster would be quicker. I went a bit off-topic, though! :D

Re: Amersham or Chesham

Posted: 02 Apr 2016, 17:35
by Iain
It's in theory possible for a slightly slower start (I normally time down to N Harrow) to give a faster overall time as the rest of the network synchs up better.