The Next Big Change to the Tube Network

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Steeevooo wrote:You're not still adamant that the system is a lot better now than before are you?
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You get the idea....

It formed part of a long-standing internal argument in the school over whether to use the tube or not.
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When is your rush hour?!! During the Evening peak today, the Central line was part suspended, the H&C line was part suspended, the District line was part suspended. You get the idea...
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Listening to magic radio at the hospital at 18:30, the lady presenter was advising people to stay in the office due to how bad the problems on the tube were! Yeah, good service indeed :lol: :roll:
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indeed! came off the Vic last night, changed to the Central to go home .. found it screwed. walk up Great Portland Street (to go via a shop i wanted to go to), got to GPS .. H&C screwed! ended up walking down the Euston Road to Euston and got the Overground out of there to Willesden Junction and down to Acton to get home. Just another 'Good Service' day of the tube. (LOL as Iain's "Just the four severe delays")

the point about the 'Good Service' is that an advertised 'Good Service' does NOT mean that the trains are running as they are timetabled to! it's such an outrageous lie. i have repeatedly missed connections on tube challenge days when trains have been 2, 5, sometimes 10 minutes late (and sometime not show up at all!) and yet be told there is a 'Good Service'. it's a crock of shit, and I never pay any attention to it.
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Indeed - further to the "Good Service" myth that Geoff has mentioned above, I would like to know why, upon arriving at Stratford this morning to "Good service" announcements, that there was not a single Jubilee line train in the platforms and that it was over 10 minutes until one did eventually arrive and depart.
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I was up shortly after 6:00am this morning - three lines partly suspended.
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I think HT has lost this arguement :o
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MylesHSG wrote:I think HT has lost this arguement :o
He's a wannabe politician - therefore he never loses any argument...
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Perhaps it's just me I don't think any of my attempts have been without problems and delays... I assume this is just the norm, par for the course and to be expected........
Look at the sheer size of the network, number of trains running at any one time, thousands of signals, hundreds of miles of track... A thousand and one things that can go wrong......Over running engineering works, burst water mains, WW2 bombs being found, signal failures, one under's, staff being taken sick, defective trains etc...

It is a brilliant transport system and I cannot believe how you can possibly expect all of this to operate without daily problems and issues.....
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This all goes back to the perfect day debate. The other thing to consider is that nearly half a million more people use the tube every day compared to 2005 so any delay impacts that many more passengers.

2004/2005 ave daily passengers 2.67 million
2010/2011 ave daily passengers 3.15 million.

Dec 7th 2010 was the tubes busiest day with 4.17 million passengers travelling.
This I expect will be beaten this year during the Olympics.

Anyway In my opinion you need a huge slice of luck regarding the network to get the record.
And that just adds to the Challenge.
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Also don't forget that sometimes late-running trains can be a bit of a blessing...so sometimes you don't *want* the network to be right :p
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It's what I said... when it breaks down, it breaks down together.

Interestingly, the two lines officially upgraded didn't fail...
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Even on a "perfect" day with no faults or failures of trains or infrastructure, I can guarantee that trains won't run according to the Working Timetable thanks to the people that cause the best laid plans to go wrong...namely the passengers!

Case in point: I boarded an Overground train at Kenny O recently and some twunt decided it would be a good idea to hold/force the doors open whilst they were closing. This promptly broke the set of doors in question and it took two members of staff nigh on ten minutes to get them closed and locked out of use so the train could proceed, and at one point they were even considering taking the train out of service.

There WILL be extended dwell times, trains being held in platforms to regulate the service, trains being turned short of their booked destination, trains being "reformed" and various other things that put a spanner in the works for challenge purposes, yet still enable LU to proclaim a "Good Service" because average frequencies are unaffected.

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palkanetoijala31 wrote:Besides when 2016 comes along who ever gets it wont be on Guinness Website it still be Marc Gawley
I don't know when it was updated, but at long last the Guinness website now seems to be showing the correct record:
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/wor ... d-stations
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Re: The Next Big Change to the Tube Network

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It was only updated recently 9 months of badgering to do it though hope the next record holder gets the same wait lol.
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