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One perfect day

Post by Nigel » 14 Mar 2011, 15:58

According to a freedom of inforamtion request to TfL there was only one day in the past year when there were no reported service delays on any Underground Line:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12733824

So all you need to do is pick that one day for your next attempt!

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Post by moley » 15 Mar 2011, 15:34

My personal opinion is that the 'perfect day' is not the best day to do a Tube Challenge.

Just becasue it was a "Good Service" all day long on every line does not mean that all trains run to timetable.

Imagine having a 60 second timetabled change at Earls Court from say a Richmond - Upminster train to a Edgware Road - Wimbledon train. Due to the 'perfect service' that train leaves 45 seconds early. You miss it.

The next train to Wimbledon is timetabled 4 minutes later, so you arrive at Wimbledon 4 minutes later than your original timetable. The knock on of this could easilly be 10 minutes by the end of the day.....


Oh such a perfect day..... I'm gald i spent it on the tube!
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Re: One perfect day

Post by Root » 15 Mar 2011, 16:43

It wouldn't be a "perfect service" if it left 45 seconds early, would it? I thought LU trains were timetabled to the nearest half-minute.

And, just as likely as the scenario which you described, would be that your 60 second timetabled change at Earls Court ends up being 5 minutes because your train is late (on an imperfect day). So you arrive at Wimbledon 4 minutes later than your original timetable. The knock on of this could easily be any number of minutes by the end of the day.

Delayed trains can be good luck or bad luck, but good service on all lines is definitely preferable to station closures and service cancellations.
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Post by nozzacook » 15 Mar 2011, 22:45

A Perfect Day is the trains you want at the time you want them.
Most records have been set with some delay on the system you just hope its not the train your on, or the ones in front of it.
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Re: One perfect day

Post by al » 16 Mar 2011, 07:45

This was mentioned on the Going Underground blog run by Annie Mole. The comments were interesting, as the definition of 'Good Service' is apparently up to the individual Line Managers, and some are seemingly slightly more reticent to declare a problem than others...
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Post by nozzacook » 16 Mar 2011, 07:52

I expect their bonus is tied into to number of days good service.
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Post by Nigel » 16 Mar 2011, 09:20

I think what you need to set a record, as well as good planning and fitness, is luck, not necessarily a perfect service. I think it was Napoleon who said I don't wan't generals who are skillful, I wan't generals that are lucky.

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Post by palkanetoijala31 » 16 Mar 2011, 09:23

Nigel wrote:I think what you need to set a record, as well as good planning and fitness, is luck, not necessarily a perfect service. I think it was Napoleon who said I don't wan't generals who are skillful, I wan't generals that are lucky.
I echo what you say Nigel 1 particular train (not saying which) we caught could be attributed to Luck on that day.

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Post by moley » 16 Mar 2011, 10:45

al wrote:This was mentioned on the Going Underground blog run by Annie Mole. The comments were interesting, as the definition of 'Good Service' is apparently up to the individual Line Managers, and some are seemingly slightly more reticent to declare a problem than others...
Indeed, the through Chesham service could be suspended and a shuttle used or even services cancelled and the Met will still show as Good Service (assuming no other issues).
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Re: One perfect day

Post by Nigel » 10 Oct 2012, 07:08

While not wishing to appear as an apologist for LU's normally unreliable performance, if you believe the TfL Travel Alerts Twitter feed (which I know sometimes isn't 100% accurate), then yesterday (9 October 2012) there were no reported service disruptions on the Underground (just minor delays on the Trams first thing and the regular step-free access reports). If this is true, then I think this is the first time there has been a 'perfect day' since 11 May 2010!

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Re: One perfect day

Post by tractakid » 10 Oct 2012, 08:56

Hmm. By chance, and for no good reason, I checked the departure board for Hanger Lane yesterday. (I think in the morning). Next WB departure was Grange Hill via Woodford. I doubt that is part of the timetable. Haha
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Re: One perfect day

Post by greatkingrat » 10 Oct 2012, 09:54

There are several trains from Grange Hill to Central London via Woodford in the run up to the morning/evening peak but I don't think there are any booked trains in the opposite direction.
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Post by palkanetoijala31 » 10 Oct 2012, 12:32

greatkingrat wrote:There are several trains from Grange Hill to Central London via Woodford in the run up to the morning/evening peak but I don't think there are any booked trains in the opposite direction.
yes there are i have even seen it go through the depot at hainault and out other side

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